1 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:11,110 easy 2 00:00:11,120 --> 00:00:28,310 [Music] 3 00:00:37,270 --> 00:00:28,800 machine 4 00:00:43,270 --> 00:00:40,470 blast off on another episode of hero 5 00:00:46,229 --> 00:00:43,280 paranormal podcast broadcasting from the 6 00:00:49,750 --> 00:00:46,239 base at la madre mountain just south of 7 00:00:52,150 --> 00:00:49,760 area 51. my name is ryan the original 8 00:00:55,670 --> 00:00:52,160 outlaw of the airwaves bringing you an 9 00:00:56,950 --> 00:00:55,680 epic episode today we're going deep deep 10 00:00:58,950 --> 00:00:56,960 into uh 11 00:01:02,470 --> 00:00:58,960 green territory 12 00:01:05,189 --> 00:01:02,480 yeah the discussing some of the most 13 00:01:06,950 --> 00:01:05,199 controversial issues of our time 14 00:01:09,429 --> 00:01:06,960 we're going to get into uh cannabis in 15 00:01:11,750 --> 00:01:09,439 the bible the devil's lettuce 16 00:01:15,030 --> 00:01:11,760 and we are talking with an expert on the 17 00:01:17,990 --> 00:01:15,040 subject mr chris bennett author of libra 18 00:01:20,870 --> 00:01:18,000 420 cannabis magical herbs and the 19 00:01:23,429 --> 00:01:20,880 occult he's also the author of various 20 00:01:26,230 --> 00:01:23,439 books on this subject and has a long 21 00:01:28,630 --> 00:01:26,240 history of delving into the research 22 00:01:29,749 --> 00:01:28,640 heavy heavy research with alchemical 23 00:01:31,270 --> 00:01:29,759 roots 24 00:01:33,510 --> 00:01:31,280 we're going to talk about 25 00:01:36,789 --> 00:01:33,520 how masons rosicrucians and the 26 00:01:37,830 --> 00:01:36,799 illuminati are all involved with 27 00:01:39,429 --> 00:01:37,840 well 28 00:01:41,670 --> 00:01:39,439 acknowledging 29 00:01:43,990 --> 00:01:41,680 this and how this 30 00:01:47,590 --> 00:01:44,000 holy grail of greenery 31 00:01:49,990 --> 00:01:47,600 is not just a modern pastime or uh drug 32 00:01:52,069 --> 00:01:50,000 of choice for hippies this is something 33 00:01:54,710 --> 00:01:52,079 that's been taking place historically 34 00:01:56,870 --> 00:01:54,720 throughout mankind for a long time 35 00:02:00,069 --> 00:01:56,880 sure a new world is emerging 36 00:02:03,350 --> 00:02:00,079 one where the earth and many states 37 00:02:06,230 --> 00:02:03,360 are becoming open to the idea 38 00:02:08,949 --> 00:02:06,240 this is not a new subject and this is 39 00:02:10,229 --> 00:02:08,959 not a new subject to chris bennett 40 00:02:12,229 --> 00:02:10,239 who has 41 00:02:15,190 --> 00:02:12,239 really gone to great lengths if you 42 00:02:16,550 --> 00:02:15,200 haven't read the book libra 420 i highly 43 00:02:19,990 --> 00:02:16,560 recommend it 44 00:02:21,589 --> 00:02:20,000 and his other books are also amazing 45 00:02:22,630 --> 00:02:21,599 so we're going to get into all of this 46 00:02:25,589 --> 00:02:22,640 goodness 47 00:02:27,270 --> 00:02:25,599 his other books include cannabis and the 48 00:02:30,309 --> 00:02:27,280 soma solution 49 00:02:32,150 --> 00:02:30,319 and sex drugs violence and the bible 50 00:02:33,990 --> 00:02:32,160 just to name a few 51 00:02:36,229 --> 00:02:34,000 you may want to get a little viazene for 52 00:02:38,229 --> 00:02:36,239 that third eye because this is going to 53 00:02:40,630 --> 00:02:38,239 be a heck of an episode with a heck of a 54 00:02:43,110 --> 00:02:40,640 guest mr chris bennett welcome to the 55 00:02:44,869 --> 00:02:43,120 hero paranormal podcast hey it's a 56 00:02:47,190 --> 00:02:44,879 pleasure to be here 57 00:02:48,869 --> 00:02:47,200 chris i have been itching to talk to you 58 00:02:51,589 --> 00:02:48,879 for quite some time 59 00:02:53,910 --> 00:02:51,599 about your magnificent work libra 420 60 00:02:56,229 --> 00:02:53,920 not to mention cannabis and the soma 61 00:02:58,869 --> 00:02:56,239 solution you have sex drugs violence in 62 00:03:01,350 --> 00:02:58,879 the bible the laundry list of amazing 63 00:03:03,910 --> 00:03:01,360 research you've done and book titles 64 00:03:07,509 --> 00:03:03,920 that lend credence to this is it's 65 00:03:09,670 --> 00:03:07,519 really touched me and i think that um 66 00:03:11,589 --> 00:03:09,680 you know a new world is emerging as far 67 00:03:14,229 --> 00:03:11,599 as cannabis it's it's seeming like a 68 00:03:16,830 --> 00:03:14,239 very new thing with dispensaries that 69 00:03:20,070 --> 00:03:16,840 look like banks and you know it's very 70 00:03:22,710 --> 00:03:20,080 uh cliche and getting popularized but 71 00:03:25,350 --> 00:03:22,720 this is a subject matter that has been 72 00:03:27,910 --> 00:03:25,360 around a very long time and you've 73 00:03:32,149 --> 00:03:27,920 touched on the spiritual uses and have a 74 00:03:35,589 --> 00:03:32,159 very convincing case of how cannabis has 75 00:03:39,110 --> 00:03:35,599 been tied and connected to the occult 76 00:03:42,309 --> 00:03:39,120 illuminati freemasons and much much more 77 00:03:44,390 --> 00:03:42,319 where do we start this off 78 00:03:47,270 --> 00:03:44,400 well you know the story of man's 79 00:03:49,190 --> 00:03:47,280 relationship of with cannabis for its uh 80 00:03:51,830 --> 00:03:49,200 psychoactive potential for shamanic 81 00:03:53,990 --> 00:03:51,840 purposes for religious purposes 82 00:03:56,229 --> 00:03:54,000 is one of the oldest cultural stories 83 00:03:57,350 --> 00:03:56,239 around you know carl sagan speculated 84 00:03:59,910 --> 00:03:57,360 that 85 00:04:02,070 --> 00:03:59,920 cannabis was in fact humanity's first 86 00:04:02,869 --> 00:04:02,080 agricultural crop and we certainly know 87 00:04:06,149 --> 00:04:02,879 from 88 00:04:08,789 --> 00:04:06,159 archaeological evidence that uh 89 00:04:11,110 --> 00:04:08,799 production of cannabis uh 90 00:04:13,110 --> 00:04:11,120 uh fiber products like rope and cloth 91 00:04:16,150 --> 00:04:13,120 can go anywhere from ten thousand twenty 92 00:04:18,870 --> 00:04:16,160 five thousand years uh in regards to its 93 00:04:21,430 --> 00:04:18,880 use for intoxicating purposes 94 00:04:23,990 --> 00:04:21,440 uh there's evidence from indo-european 95 00:04:25,270 --> 00:04:24,000 sites uh going back at least fifty five 96 00:04:28,629 --> 00:04:25,280 hundred years 97 00:04:30,870 --> 00:04:28,639 uh from the ukraine romania places like 98 00:04:33,350 --> 00:04:30,880 that that it was used in rituals 99 00:04:35,430 --> 00:04:33,360 involving funeral practices 100 00:04:37,430 --> 00:04:35,440 and this this sort of use continued on 101 00:04:40,390 --> 00:04:37,440 with indo-european culture for thousands 102 00:04:42,070 --> 00:04:40,400 of years so the ritual use of cannabis 103 00:04:43,990 --> 00:04:42,080 is you know really older than any 104 00:04:47,189 --> 00:04:44,000 existing religions 105 00:04:49,110 --> 00:04:47,199 and uh um as you mentioned i've tried to 106 00:04:52,790 --> 00:04:49,120 make a case to show 107 00:04:53,830 --> 00:04:52,800 its role in the inception period of a 108 00:04:57,270 --> 00:04:53,840 number 109 00:04:59,590 --> 00:04:57,280 of uh long long-time world religions uh 110 00:05:01,590 --> 00:04:59,600 um and it's it's really fascinating the 111 00:05:03,670 --> 00:05:01,600 the sort of archaeological evidence and 112 00:05:06,950 --> 00:05:03,680 the textual evidence that there is out 113 00:05:10,390 --> 00:05:06,960 there to back up such claims 114 00:05:12,629 --> 00:05:10,400 yeah and you've um backed these up in a 115 00:05:14,230 --> 00:05:12,639 in a way that was previously unavailable 116 00:05:16,870 --> 00:05:14,240 at least to my eyes 117 00:05:18,390 --> 00:05:16,880 with a variety of books um we've named a 118 00:05:22,150 --> 00:05:18,400 few 119 00:05:24,390 --> 00:05:22,160 others are green gold the tree of life 120 00:05:26,150 --> 00:05:24,400 marijuana in magic and religion 121 00:05:28,390 --> 00:05:26,160 um you have sex drugs violence in the 122 00:05:29,749 --> 00:05:28,400 bible there are numerous books that 123 00:05:31,670 --> 00:05:29,759 you've published and 124 00:05:33,110 --> 00:05:31,680 you've published various articles on the 125 00:05:36,150 --> 00:05:33,120 same subject 126 00:05:39,510 --> 00:05:36,160 and something that um i i like about the 127 00:05:42,070 --> 00:05:39,520 scope of your research is that 128 00:05:44,950 --> 00:05:42,080 usually people do not realize the 129 00:05:46,390 --> 00:05:44,960 pivotal role that marijuana has played 130 00:05:48,469 --> 00:05:46,400 in the foundation of ancient 131 00:05:49,670 --> 00:05:48,479 civilizations 132 00:05:54,629 --> 00:05:49,680 yeah 133 00:05:57,270 --> 00:05:54,639 culture grew out of agriculture and as 134 00:05:58,710 --> 00:05:57,280 we've cultivated cannabis has cultivated 135 00:06:00,629 --> 00:05:58,720 us 136 00:06:04,790 --> 00:06:00,639 man there's a lot to be seen in that we 137 00:06:07,189 --> 00:06:04,800 almost have a symbiotic relationship 138 00:06:08,950 --> 00:06:07,199 with this plant you know like 139 00:06:11,590 --> 00:06:08,960 in regards to human culture but even 140 00:06:14,309 --> 00:06:11,600 like uh biologically you know the the 141 00:06:16,950 --> 00:06:14,319 the receptor sites uh that the uh 142 00:06:18,550 --> 00:06:16,960 cannabinoids attached to only react that 143 00:06:20,550 --> 00:06:18,560 way because of their similarity to 144 00:06:22,230 --> 00:06:20,560 endocannabinoids that occur naturally in 145 00:06:25,510 --> 00:06:22,240 the body and 146 00:06:27,029 --> 00:06:25,520 rare things like gamma linoleic acid 147 00:06:28,710 --> 00:06:27,039 found in the hemp seeds all found in 148 00:06:30,550 --> 00:06:28,720 human mother's milk and there's 149 00:06:32,230 --> 00:06:30,560 endocannabinoids and human mothers milk 150 00:06:33,029 --> 00:06:32,240 as well 151 00:06:35,510 --> 00:06:33,039 and 152 00:06:38,710 --> 00:06:35,520 other biological kind of connections you 153 00:06:40,550 --> 00:06:38,720 know and uh you know 154 00:06:41,990 --> 00:06:40,560 there may be some sort of explanation 155 00:06:44,070 --> 00:06:42,000 that we kind of figure out you know if 156 00:06:46,950 --> 00:06:44,080 you are what you eat we've been growing 157 00:06:49,510 --> 00:06:46,960 this plant and our own human waste for 158 00:06:52,150 --> 00:06:49,520 thousands and thousands of years you 159 00:06:55,510 --> 00:06:52,160 know and having this interaction with it 160 00:06:57,189 --> 00:06:55,520 and uh um you know it's a very keen 161 00:06:59,510 --> 00:06:57,199 thing and you know i i believe that 162 00:07:02,469 --> 00:06:59,520 cannabis is the very tree of life you 163 00:07:05,909 --> 00:07:02,479 know uh um and that it's here in this 164 00:07:09,189 --> 00:07:05,919 time uh uh by no accident that we're 165 00:07:11,670 --> 00:07:09,199 rediscovering that this lost history 166 00:07:14,710 --> 00:07:11,680 uh um and uh there's something very 167 00:07:16,950 --> 00:07:14,720 important happening with cannabis and 168 00:07:19,270 --> 00:07:16,960 going to happen the best is yet to come 169 00:07:20,870 --> 00:07:19,280 in regards to cannabis is this 170 00:07:22,710 --> 00:07:20,880 information 171 00:07:24,790 --> 00:07:22,720 about the religious use you know i've 172 00:07:26,309 --> 00:07:24,800 been doing this research for over 30 173 00:07:28,390 --> 00:07:26,319 years 174 00:07:30,710 --> 00:07:28,400 has yet to really 175 00:07:33,029 --> 00:07:30,720 sink in outside of you know the more 176 00:07:34,469 --> 00:07:33,039 deeper seekers in the cannabis world but 177 00:07:37,110 --> 00:07:34,479 it will 178 00:07:39,270 --> 00:07:37,120 and and when it does it's going to cause 179 00:07:41,350 --> 00:07:39,280 a revolution in thought in the 180 00:07:44,390 --> 00:07:41,360 theological world 181 00:07:47,830 --> 00:07:44,400 in in a very powerful way 182 00:07:49,990 --> 00:07:47,840 i agree and it it feels as if 183 00:07:52,309 --> 00:07:50,000 at least in my 184 00:07:54,390 --> 00:07:52,319 opinion that as soon as there was money 185 00:07:58,070 --> 00:07:54,400 to be made on it by major corporations 186 00:07:59,990 --> 00:07:58,080 as we're seeing in this era that uh of 187 00:08:01,270 --> 00:08:00,000 modern dispensaries it's no longer the 188 00:08:03,830 --> 00:08:01,280 mom and pop 189 00:08:06,710 --> 00:08:03,840 on the corner doing this um as soon as 190 00:08:09,430 --> 00:08:06,720 there's profit to be made and you know 191 00:08:11,510 --> 00:08:09,440 public shares and board meetings and all 192 00:08:13,749 --> 00:08:11,520 of this in the medical industry of 193 00:08:15,909 --> 00:08:13,759 course it is being uh 194 00:08:19,029 --> 00:08:15,919 it is being utilized for 195 00:08:21,510 --> 00:08:19,039 for profit making and um going back just 196 00:08:24,550 --> 00:08:21,520 a little bit i want to get into you 197 00:08:27,029 --> 00:08:24,560 mentioned your search and wisdom 198 00:08:29,270 --> 00:08:27,039 into this research and you you've really 199 00:08:32,230 --> 00:08:29,280 delved deeply 200 00:08:33,909 --> 00:08:32,240 what got you started down this pathway 201 00:08:38,070 --> 00:08:33,919 what was 202 00:08:39,029 --> 00:08:38,080 the spark that lit the fire to to get 203 00:08:41,430 --> 00:08:39,039 you to 204 00:08:43,829 --> 00:08:41,440 produce so much literature and offer so 205 00:08:45,910 --> 00:08:43,839 much to us in the form of all of your 206 00:08:48,150 --> 00:08:45,920 research 207 00:08:50,870 --> 00:08:48,160 well i had a very powerful religious 208 00:08:52,870 --> 00:08:50,880 experience with cannabis uh a little 209 00:08:55,269 --> 00:08:52,880 over 30 years ago 210 00:08:57,269 --> 00:08:55,279 in the winter of 89.90 211 00:09:00,870 --> 00:08:57,279 and uh um 212 00:09:03,509 --> 00:09:00,880 that that led me to try to understand 213 00:09:05,509 --> 00:09:03,519 uh um what had taken place whether i 214 00:09:07,590 --> 00:09:05,519 just had you know i was stoned and just 215 00:09:11,590 --> 00:09:07,600 tripped out or whether there was 216 00:09:13,269 --> 00:09:11,600 anything to that uh experience you know 217 00:09:15,190 --> 00:09:13,279 um i can tell you about that i guess 218 00:09:17,990 --> 00:09:15,200 it's a story i pulled off and i get 219 00:09:19,990 --> 00:09:18,000 asked about this a lot but uh in the in 220 00:09:21,910 --> 00:09:20,000 the 80s and 90s i was 221 00:09:23,030 --> 00:09:21,920 really just a hardcore surfer i grew 222 00:09:24,470 --> 00:09:23,040 weed 223 00:09:26,870 --> 00:09:24,480 worked a few nights a week as a night 224 00:09:28,949 --> 00:09:26,880 watchman and a fish plant and a series 225 00:09:31,190 --> 00:09:28,959 of events brought about this religious 226 00:09:34,550 --> 00:09:31,200 experience 227 00:09:37,030 --> 00:09:34,560 and the first of these was 228 00:09:41,030 --> 00:09:37,040 the catholic church was in a big scandal 229 00:09:42,790 --> 00:09:41,040 here in canada it evolved uh uh um 230 00:09:45,030 --> 00:09:42,800 an orphanage where children have been 231 00:09:46,389 --> 00:09:45,040 being molested uh decades before and 232 00:09:47,750 --> 00:09:46,399 these people had grown up and they 233 00:09:49,670 --> 00:09:47,760 started coming out making these 234 00:09:51,990 --> 00:09:49,680 accusations against the church and it 235 00:09:54,070 --> 00:09:52,000 was a this is like common 236 00:09:55,670 --> 00:09:54,080 type of news nowadays but this time it 237 00:09:59,350 --> 00:09:55,680 was kind of the first story here in 238 00:10:00,949 --> 00:09:59,360 canada that broke the silence on this uh 239 00:10:02,870 --> 00:10:00,959 troubling matter 240 00:10:04,870 --> 00:10:02,880 and so i thought that's so weird you 241 00:10:06,630 --> 00:10:04,880 know i was like you know it wasn't my 242 00:10:08,069 --> 00:10:06,640 parents weren't really hardcore 243 00:10:09,509 --> 00:10:08,079 christians or anything but i just always 244 00:10:11,829 --> 00:10:09,519 kind of believed the bible you know 245 00:10:13,350 --> 00:10:11,839 naturally just culturally and i thought 246 00:10:14,949 --> 00:10:13,360 well i'm gonna read the bible see what 247 00:10:16,630 --> 00:10:14,959 this thing is all about you know if you 248 00:10:18,790 --> 00:10:16,640 it seems so weird that that was 249 00:10:20,310 --> 00:10:18,800 happening to me and so i bought a bible 250 00:10:21,590 --> 00:10:20,320 and i started reading it i couldn't get 251 00:10:23,750 --> 00:10:21,600 into it i stuck it in the same 252 00:10:25,430 --> 00:10:23,760 watchman's office the fish plant 253 00:10:28,550 --> 00:10:25,440 and then 254 00:10:30,230 --> 00:10:28,560 coinciding with this a friend of mine 255 00:10:32,550 --> 00:10:30,240 recorded a 256 00:10:34,310 --> 00:10:32,560 documentary on him and at this time the 257 00:10:36,389 --> 00:10:34,320 term hemp itself 258 00:10:38,470 --> 00:10:36,399 had kind of fallen out of 259 00:10:41,350 --> 00:10:38,480 the language here in canada in regards 260 00:10:43,269 --> 00:10:41,360 to cannabis you know uh um i did we 261 00:10:45,670 --> 00:10:43,279 didn't even know what hemp was when 262 00:10:47,269 --> 00:10:45,680 people started talking about it uh um 263 00:10:48,790 --> 00:10:47,279 and then he says well it's cannabis and 264 00:10:50,230 --> 00:10:48,800 he can make all this stuff well not you 265 00:10:52,389 --> 00:10:50,240 know group cannabis i thought i knew 266 00:10:53,829 --> 00:10:52,399 everything he was to know about it and i 267 00:10:55,670 --> 00:10:53,839 was like no way and then i started 268 00:10:57,910 --> 00:10:55,680 looking it up with encyclopedias and 269 00:10:59,910 --> 00:10:57,920 sure enough there was this whole uh 270 00:11:02,230 --> 00:10:59,920 fascinating history about its industrial 271 00:11:04,069 --> 00:11:02,240 applications and where i lived on the 272 00:11:05,990 --> 00:11:04,079 west coast of vancouver island there was 273 00:11:08,150 --> 00:11:06,000 a great controversy about the logging of 274 00:11:09,030 --> 00:11:08,160 last old growth rainforest clackwood 275 00:11:11,430 --> 00:11:09,040 sound 276 00:11:14,069 --> 00:11:11,440 and my family you know my brother was 277 00:11:15,910 --> 00:11:14,079 the iwa the union camp chairman for the 278 00:11:17,990 --> 00:11:15,920 loggers and stuff so i've worked in the 279 00:11:19,829 --> 00:11:18,000 forest industry and things myself 280 00:11:21,829 --> 00:11:19,839 uh um and all of a sudden there was this 281 00:11:23,670 --> 00:11:21,839 big environmental movement happening out 282 00:11:25,829 --> 00:11:23,680 there trying to save the last old growth 283 00:11:27,590 --> 00:11:25,839 coastal rainforest in canada 284 00:11:29,350 --> 00:11:27,600 and i thought oh well we could make 285 00:11:31,670 --> 00:11:29,360 paper out of him and i started becoming 286 00:11:33,670 --> 00:11:31,680 really interested in it and then around 287 00:11:36,630 --> 00:11:33,680 the same time the gulf war started in 288 00:11:39,190 --> 00:11:36,640 iraq and i've seen this little uh 289 00:11:40,470 --> 00:11:39,200 clip it about uh saddam hussein how he 290 00:11:43,350 --> 00:11:40,480 thought he was connected to 291 00:11:44,310 --> 00:11:43,360 nebuchadnezzar the last king of babylon 292 00:11:46,470 --> 00:11:44,320 and 293 00:11:48,790 --> 00:11:46,480 had fired a scud missile 294 00:11:51,590 --> 00:11:48,800 into israel and uh nebuchadnezzar 295 00:11:54,949 --> 00:11:51,600 conquered the the the the israelites in 296 00:11:56,389 --> 00:11:54,959 the old testament uh storyline and uh 297 00:11:58,389 --> 00:11:56,399 one night i was like sitting on this 298 00:12:00,150 --> 00:11:58,399 fish plant smoking a joint and there was 299 00:12:02,790 --> 00:12:00,160 an ad for a sermon this is the time 300 00:12:04,389 --> 00:12:02,800 before the internet so uh new uh 301 00:12:06,629 --> 00:12:04,399 television stations all that type of 302 00:12:08,230 --> 00:12:06,639 stuff had uh printouts in the newspaper 303 00:12:11,750 --> 00:12:08,240 and there was an ad for a sermon pat 304 00:12:14,150 --> 00:12:11,760 robertson was revelations 18 the fall of 305 00:12:16,150 --> 00:12:14,160 babylon there's robert smith pulpit and 306 00:12:17,350 --> 00:12:16,160 behind him he had picture tanks and jets 307 00:12:20,310 --> 00:12:17,360 and i was like 308 00:12:22,790 --> 00:12:20,320 wow he's tying in this gulf war 309 00:12:24,230 --> 00:12:22,800 with uh the book of revelation and you 310 00:12:25,350 --> 00:12:24,240 know we're you know we're getting close 311 00:12:27,269 --> 00:12:25,360 to the end of the millennium here i 312 00:12:30,150 --> 00:12:27,279 think everybody was kind of in a bit of 313 00:12:32,710 --> 00:12:30,160 a apocalyptic fervor there as we 314 00:12:34,069 --> 00:12:32,720 approached 2000 and i've seen the omen 315 00:12:35,509 --> 00:12:34,079 when i was a kid and i thought well i'm 316 00:12:37,990 --> 00:12:35,519 going to read the book of revelation 317 00:12:39,750 --> 00:12:38,000 right now you know and so i opened it up 318 00:12:42,230 --> 00:12:39,760 and i start reading it and john he's 319 00:12:43,910 --> 00:12:42,240 given a scroll and it takes as sweet as 320 00:12:46,310 --> 00:12:43,920 honey in his mouth and he swallows it he 321 00:12:48,870 --> 00:12:46,320 begins to prophesize and i was like what 322 00:12:50,629 --> 00:12:48,880 has he eaten and then i started reading 323 00:12:52,870 --> 00:12:50,639 further and it's talking about the 324 00:12:54,949 --> 00:12:52,880 clothes made of sackcloth and 325 00:12:56,710 --> 00:12:54,959 incense billowing clouds of incense with 326 00:12:58,949 --> 00:12:56,720 the prayers of all the saints and i was 327 00:13:01,829 --> 00:12:58,959 like this is trippy and i got to the end 328 00:13:03,590 --> 00:13:01,839 of the bible and i read revelations 22 329 00:13:05,430 --> 00:13:03,600 and it says on either side of the river 330 00:13:07,350 --> 00:13:05,440 of life to the tree of life 331 00:13:09,509 --> 00:13:07,360 burying 12 manners of fruit yielding is 332 00:13:11,910 --> 00:13:09,519 fruit each month and the leaves of the 333 00:13:13,670 --> 00:13:11,920 tree are for the healing of the nations 334 00:13:16,550 --> 00:13:13,680 and when i read that i had this 335 00:13:17,910 --> 00:13:16,560 experience where i felt like light just 336 00:13:19,509 --> 00:13:17,920 beamed into me 337 00:13:21,910 --> 00:13:19,519 and that this was a reference to 338 00:13:24,150 --> 00:13:21,920 cannabis and all these different fruits 339 00:13:26,069 --> 00:13:24,160 where it's uh industrial applications 340 00:13:28,790 --> 00:13:26,079 that we could use to save the planet you 341 00:13:31,750 --> 00:13:28,800 know whether that be uh biomass fuels to 342 00:13:33,670 --> 00:13:31,760 replace petroleum or uh hemp paper 343 00:13:35,350 --> 00:13:33,680 renewable crop instead of cutting down 344 00:13:37,829 --> 00:13:35,360 old growth forests to make pulp and 345 00:13:39,670 --> 00:13:37,839 paper uh or whether it be like the 346 00:13:41,670 --> 00:13:39,680 protein from the you know the hemp seed 347 00:13:43,509 --> 00:13:41,680 itself is the most one of the most pure 348 00:13:45,269 --> 00:13:43,519 forms of digestible proteins because 349 00:13:46,310 --> 00:13:45,279 it's the rich source of essential fatty 350 00:13:48,389 --> 00:13:46,320 acids 351 00:13:51,189 --> 00:13:48,399 and you know hemp cloth replace soil 352 00:13:53,350 --> 00:13:51,199 depleting cotton the list is ends right 353 00:13:55,750 --> 00:13:53,360 um and that the healing leads were this 354 00:13:57,430 --> 00:13:55,760 medicine and so you know i called it my 355 00:14:00,470 --> 00:13:57,440 wife at the time my my first wife got 356 00:14:01,910 --> 00:14:00,480 married a few times uh um and uh i 357 00:14:04,150 --> 00:14:01,920 started talking she thought i was having 358 00:14:06,069 --> 00:14:04,160 some tournamental breakdown 359 00:14:07,910 --> 00:14:06,079 and i'm like yeah i didn't get picked up 360 00:14:09,910 --> 00:14:07,920 put into a hospital that night because i 361 00:14:11,829 --> 00:14:09,920 was like really 362 00:14:13,590 --> 00:14:11,839 in a manic kind of state and then the 363 00:14:15,430 --> 00:14:13,600 next day i got up 364 00:14:18,150 --> 00:14:15,440 and i was like wow is there anything to 365 00:14:20,470 --> 00:14:18,160 that or was i just tripping out or what 366 00:14:23,030 --> 00:14:20,480 and i thought well if there is 367 00:14:25,509 --> 00:14:23,040 then somebody somewhere else will have 368 00:14:27,030 --> 00:14:25,519 had an experience like this and there'll 369 00:14:29,189 --> 00:14:27,040 be something written about it somewhere 370 00:14:32,790 --> 00:14:29,199 and i just kind of went in this 371 00:14:34,949 --> 00:14:32,800 kind of manic state trying to 372 00:14:37,829 --> 00:14:34,959 identify what it happened to me 373 00:14:40,230 --> 00:14:37,839 and accumulating information on the role 374 00:14:42,790 --> 00:14:40,240 of cannabis in in various religions you 375 00:14:44,870 --> 00:14:42,800 know and this went on for decades right 376 00:14:47,110 --> 00:14:44,880 is the only thing i actually write about 377 00:14:49,189 --> 00:14:47,120 it written like four huge books working 378 00:14:51,670 --> 00:14:49,199 on the fifth but they've all been uh 379 00:14:54,790 --> 00:14:51,680 related to this uh same experience you 380 00:14:56,069 --> 00:14:54,800 know and i i'm saying that 30 years 381 00:14:56,870 --> 00:14:56,079 later 382 00:15:02,150 --> 00:14:56,880 uh 383 00:15:03,829 --> 00:15:02,160 is out there now to show that cannabis 384 00:15:07,189 --> 00:15:03,839 just from a purely you could be a total 385 00:15:09,350 --> 00:15:07,199 atheist and i think if i laid down 386 00:15:11,990 --> 00:15:09,360 uh um cannabis role to you in the 387 00:15:13,350 --> 00:15:12,000 ancient world uh particularly in the 388 00:15:15,509 --> 00:15:13,360 near east 389 00:15:17,829 --> 00:15:15,519 you would see that cannabis was in fact 390 00:15:20,069 --> 00:15:17,839 recognized as the tree of life 391 00:15:21,750 --> 00:15:20,079 in assyria by agent 392 00:15:24,470 --> 00:15:21,760 canaanites and 393 00:15:27,110 --> 00:15:24,480 polytheistic hebrews 394 00:15:29,509 --> 00:15:27,120 and it is here again 395 00:15:32,310 --> 00:15:29,519 and it's what happened to me 396 00:15:35,269 --> 00:15:32,320 was real something did did did feed me 397 00:15:37,189 --> 00:15:35,279 information and i followed up on it and 398 00:15:39,590 --> 00:15:37,199 it's proven itself and i'm i'm quite 399 00:15:41,509 --> 00:15:39,600 convinced of that and you know happy to 400 00:15:44,389 --> 00:15:41,519 debate it with anybody 401 00:15:47,189 --> 00:15:44,399 it's it's a grand mystical secret and 402 00:15:49,030 --> 00:15:47,199 it's amazing how you had a 403 00:15:51,269 --> 00:15:49,040 spiritual experience and 404 00:15:53,829 --> 00:15:51,279 literally stumbled upon it but 405 00:15:55,509 --> 00:15:53,839 i i find that you know it's very 406 00:15:58,470 --> 00:15:55,519 interesting i've been looking deeply 407 00:15:59,269 --> 00:15:58,480 into you know alchemical philosophers 408 00:16:02,310 --> 00:15:59,279 and 409 00:16:05,829 --> 00:16:02,320 a e weight in his book lives of the 410 00:16:08,470 --> 00:16:05,839 alchemistical philosophers says the gold 411 00:16:11,110 --> 00:16:08,480 of the philosopher is not a medal and 412 00:16:13,590 --> 00:16:11,120 you you find this throughout history in 413 00:16:15,350 --> 00:16:13,600 the search of health and happiness that 414 00:16:17,910 --> 00:16:15,360 many 415 00:16:21,110 --> 00:16:17,920 basically 416 00:16:24,230 --> 00:16:21,120 i guess allude to the fact i don't 417 00:16:26,230 --> 00:16:24,240 it's funny how this is skirted so often 418 00:16:28,710 --> 00:16:26,240 but um and and this is why i want to 419 00:16:31,030 --> 00:16:28,720 bring up soma which was unquestionably 420 00:16:33,189 --> 00:16:31,040 the greatest and holiest of these 421 00:16:34,470 --> 00:16:33,199 ancient indian worships 422 00:16:37,110 --> 00:16:34,480 and 423 00:16:38,870 --> 00:16:37,120 can we go into soma the offered beverage 424 00:16:41,350 --> 00:16:38,880 that was used for religious and 425 00:16:45,430 --> 00:16:41,360 spiritual experiences and 426 00:16:48,069 --> 00:16:45,440 how how you came across that connection 427 00:16:50,069 --> 00:16:48,079 well you know uh um when i first started 428 00:16:52,069 --> 00:16:50,079 researching it i wrote my first books uh 429 00:16:54,230 --> 00:16:52,079 greenville the tree of life and sex 430 00:16:57,110 --> 00:16:54,240 drugs violence in the bible i i was 431 00:16:58,310 --> 00:16:57,120 fully accepting uh our gordon lawson's 432 00:17:01,030 --> 00:16:58,320 theory 433 00:17:02,069 --> 00:17:01,040 of the flying carrick mushroom right uh 434 00:17:04,630 --> 00:17:02,079 um 435 00:17:07,029 --> 00:17:04,640 it was just so was you know well it it's 436 00:17:09,750 --> 00:17:07,039 just so accepted by everybody and i knew 437 00:17:13,270 --> 00:17:09,760 all sorts of people that i respected 438 00:17:15,189 --> 00:17:13,280 that also held that view like carl rock 439 00:17:17,029 --> 00:17:15,199 for instance and uh 440 00:17:19,029 --> 00:17:17,039 other other people 441 00:17:21,189 --> 00:17:19,039 um and uh 442 00:17:23,590 --> 00:17:21,199 i didn't really start looking into it 443 00:17:25,270 --> 00:17:23,600 till much later and it was like 444 00:17:26,710 --> 00:17:25,280 you know 445 00:17:28,630 --> 00:17:26,720 i don't think people 446 00:17:30,870 --> 00:17:28,640 have the opportunity 447 00:17:34,470 --> 00:17:30,880 to write the type of books i write you 448 00:17:36,310 --> 00:17:34,480 know even like 30 years ago because 449 00:17:38,230 --> 00:17:36,320 back in those days you were you know you 450 00:17:40,310 --> 00:17:38,240 were pretty much tied to libraries and 451 00:17:42,549 --> 00:17:40,320 what you could access through libraries 452 00:17:43,830 --> 00:17:42,559 and private collections and stuff like 453 00:17:46,150 --> 00:17:43,840 that but 454 00:17:49,350 --> 00:17:46,160 in our own time 455 00:17:51,909 --> 00:17:49,360 google has scanned millions of books 456 00:17:54,630 --> 00:17:51,919 and put them all in a huge database so 457 00:17:57,029 --> 00:17:54,640 you can do an index search 458 00:18:00,549 --> 00:17:57,039 of like hundreds of libraries thousands 459 00:18:02,870 --> 00:18:00,559 of libraries worth of books with just uh 460 00:18:04,150 --> 00:18:02,880 a quick look around you know what i mean 461 00:18:05,909 --> 00:18:04,160 and uh 462 00:18:07,750 --> 00:18:05,919 and i was you know i just have to be 463 00:18:08,870 --> 00:18:07,760 born in that time period like the rest 464 00:18:11,990 --> 00:18:08,880 of us where 465 00:18:14,150 --> 00:18:12,000 uh this was new you know and so 466 00:18:16,630 --> 00:18:14,160 by starting to google around a little 467 00:18:19,110 --> 00:18:16,640 bit you know word-faced combinations 468 00:18:21,190 --> 00:18:19,120 like soma and hayoma the persian 469 00:18:22,950 --> 00:18:21,200 counterpart of soma 470 00:18:25,990 --> 00:18:22,960 from the avested religion that grew 471 00:18:28,950 --> 00:18:26,000 disrationism and hamp and cannabis and 472 00:18:31,350 --> 00:18:28,960 various spellings and uh whatnot 473 00:18:32,310 --> 00:18:31,360 all of a sudden i was able to get all 474 00:18:34,390 --> 00:18:32,320 access 475 00:18:35,270 --> 00:18:34,400 to previous people you know a century 476 00:18:38,630 --> 00:18:35,280 ago 477 00:18:41,110 --> 00:18:38,640 uh um and in between that you know that 478 00:18:42,870 --> 00:18:41,120 had all speculated about cannabis and 479 00:18:44,549 --> 00:18:42,880 soma and there's actually been a pretty 480 00:18:46,390 --> 00:18:44,559 strong case for it 481 00:18:49,990 --> 00:18:46,400 even before 482 00:18:52,150 --> 00:18:50,000 i had delved into this you know 483 00:18:55,230 --> 00:18:52,160 but the current i think you know like 484 00:18:56,950 --> 00:18:55,240 based on the most up-to-date 485 00:18:59,990 --> 00:18:56,960 archaeological 486 00:19:01,430 --> 00:19:00,000 and textual evidence i think that the 487 00:19:03,190 --> 00:19:01,440 case for 488 00:19:04,870 --> 00:19:03,200 uh cannabis and soma and you have to 489 00:19:08,150 --> 00:19:04,880 remember that 490 00:19:09,350 --> 00:19:08,160 it was known as soma in india that was 491 00:19:11,430 --> 00:19:09,360 part of the 492 00:19:13,350 --> 00:19:11,440 vedic religion this was a religion that 493 00:19:14,549 --> 00:19:13,360 came into india 494 00:19:18,390 --> 00:19:14,559 with area 495 00:19:20,310 --> 00:19:19,350 people 496 00:19:22,789 --> 00:19:20,320 and 497 00:19:25,510 --> 00:19:22,799 they also spread to other areas of the 498 00:19:27,669 --> 00:19:25,520 world such as into persia 499 00:19:30,070 --> 00:19:27,679 where they had the invested religion and 500 00:19:32,310 --> 00:19:30,080 they had a similar sacrament called 501 00:19:34,549 --> 00:19:32,320 kaoman the only difference is the 502 00:19:37,190 --> 00:19:34,559 dialectic changes these languages and 503 00:19:39,750 --> 00:19:37,200 religions grew out of an identical 504 00:19:42,150 --> 00:19:39,760 earlier ancestor right you know and we 505 00:19:44,230 --> 00:19:42,160 know this because the similarity in the 506 00:19:45,510 --> 00:19:44,240 text and the similarity in the languages 507 00:19:47,350 --> 00:19:45,520 and whatnot you know it's not like a 508 00:19:50,630 --> 00:19:47,360 theory or anything like that 509 00:19:53,669 --> 00:19:50,640 um and um they were connected with wider 510 00:19:56,549 --> 00:19:53,679 indo-european groups such as systems uh 511 00:19:58,150 --> 00:19:56,559 who who are well-known uh nomadic uh 512 00:20:00,310 --> 00:19:58,160 people that were you know one of the 513 00:20:01,350 --> 00:20:00,320 first peoples to domesticate the horse 514 00:20:04,830 --> 00:20:01,360 and things 515 00:20:07,669 --> 00:20:04,840 and they spread even into far off by 516 00:20:09,430 --> 00:20:07,679 china and we know that they were there 517 00:20:11,909 --> 00:20:09,440 because there's been a lot of recent 518 00:20:15,110 --> 00:20:11,919 archaeological evidence 519 00:20:17,430 --> 00:20:15,120 uh um uh regarding indo-european mummies 520 00:20:19,750 --> 00:20:17,440 that were uh found in central china and 521 00:20:21,430 --> 00:20:19,760 that uh these are variously uh known 522 00:20:24,310 --> 00:20:21,440 under different names but popularly the 523 00:20:27,110 --> 00:20:24,320 yushi or the gucci tribes and we know 524 00:20:29,430 --> 00:20:27,120 they were indo-european-speaking uh 525 00:20:31,510 --> 00:20:29,440 uh uh uh indo-european people living 526 00:20:32,789 --> 00:20:31,520 amongst the han chinese the indigenous 527 00:20:35,430 --> 00:20:32,799 chinese 528 00:20:36,789 --> 00:20:35,440 and they were very much into cannabis we 529 00:20:38,310 --> 00:20:36,799 know this because of really 530 00:20:41,750 --> 00:20:38,320 well-preserved 531 00:20:45,110 --> 00:20:41,760 archaeological evidence uh that survives 532 00:20:47,830 --> 00:20:45,120 in this very arid dry cold climate 533 00:20:49,510 --> 00:20:47,840 um and we found you know bouquets of 534 00:20:52,149 --> 00:20:49,520 female cannabis 535 00:20:53,750 --> 00:20:52,159 uh preserved cannabis buds 536 00:20:56,630 --> 00:20:53,760 uh uh um 537 00:20:58,310 --> 00:20:56,640 tools and then alters uh used for 538 00:21:00,950 --> 00:20:58,320 burning cannons that were used in 539 00:21:03,590 --> 00:21:00,960 funerary rights much like the ones i 540 00:21:05,669 --> 00:21:03,600 mentioned earlier by indo-europeans even 541 00:21:08,630 --> 00:21:05,679 thousands of years earlier than this and 542 00:21:10,390 --> 00:21:08,640 so this is uh this time period uh in 543 00:21:16,149 --> 00:21:10,400 china that i'm talking about is like 544 00:21:18,710 --> 00:21:16,159 from 2800 to about 2600 2500 or so uh 545 00:21:21,750 --> 00:21:18,720 that these artifacts are all from right 546 00:21:24,390 --> 00:21:21,760 and um in china 547 00:21:26,230 --> 00:21:24,400 the name for uh given like they have a 548 00:21:29,909 --> 00:21:26,240 long history of cannabis themselves 549 00:21:32,789 --> 00:21:29,919 independent uh largely for fiber and 550 00:21:33,750 --> 00:21:32,799 food purposes but they began using a 551 00:21:35,750 --> 00:21:33,760 term 552 00:21:37,029 --> 00:21:35,760 while these indo-europeans were in the 553 00:21:38,310 --> 00:21:37,039 region 554 00:21:44,230 --> 00:21:38,320 huma 555 00:21:47,110 --> 00:21:44,240 cannabis because they burnt it but also 556 00:21:49,990 --> 00:21:47,120 a city in tennessee uh scythian's a 557 00:21:52,710 --> 00:21:50,000 group and one of the scythian names was 558 00:21:54,310 --> 00:21:52,720 the hill of varga the gatherers of 559 00:21:55,909 --> 00:21:54,320 hayoma 560 00:21:57,350 --> 00:21:55,919 because they transported they were 561 00:22:01,110 --> 00:21:57,360 highly nomadic and they know from 562 00:22:04,149 --> 00:22:01,120 scythian artifacts that they both drank 563 00:22:06,230 --> 00:22:04,159 and burnt cannabis there's uh numbers of 564 00:22:08,149 --> 00:22:06,240 uh fines from scythian tombs these go 565 00:22:09,990 --> 00:22:08,159 all the way into the russian steps and 566 00:22:12,549 --> 00:22:10,000 all over the place they're all over the 567 00:22:15,029 --> 00:22:12,559 place into western europe and recipients 568 00:22:17,270 --> 00:22:15,039 are largely credited with spreading the 569 00:22:19,990 --> 00:22:17,280 ritual use of cannabis throughout the 570 00:22:21,750 --> 00:22:20,000 ancient world as well as a lot of the 571 00:22:24,230 --> 00:22:21,760 common uh like a lot of the 572 00:22:26,950 --> 00:22:24,240 indo-european languages french german 573 00:22:29,590 --> 00:22:26,960 english uh can be shown to come from the 574 00:22:32,390 --> 00:22:29,600 same indo-european root [\h__\h] 575 00:22:34,310 --> 00:22:32,400 uh uh so even our own candidates 576 00:22:36,230 --> 00:22:34,320 which doesn't happen from the latin but 577 00:22:37,430 --> 00:22:36,240 comes down to the same indo-european 578 00:22:40,630 --> 00:22:37,440 roots right 579 00:22:42,789 --> 00:22:40,640 and uh we've uh it physiant tombs they 580 00:22:45,430 --> 00:22:42,799 found incense burners 581 00:22:47,830 --> 00:22:45,440 as well as gold goblets uh that were 582 00:22:49,350 --> 00:22:47,840 used to drink preparation of cannabis uh 583 00:22:50,710 --> 00:22:49,360 mixed with opium 584 00:22:52,549 --> 00:22:50,720 and it's believed by russian 585 00:22:55,430 --> 00:22:52,559 archaeologists that this was evidence of 586 00:22:58,230 --> 00:22:55,440 aomo the drink of of the zoroastrians 587 00:23:00,470 --> 00:22:58,240 and uh it's quite clear the zoroastrians 588 00:23:02,789 --> 00:23:00,480 and the uh scythians 589 00:23:04,950 --> 00:23:02,799 although they were known in persia sacas 590 00:23:06,950 --> 00:23:04,960 uh interacted heavily in trade and 591 00:23:12,070 --> 00:23:06,960 cultural traditions 592 00:23:14,070 --> 00:23:12,080 and um there's a site that was uh known 593 00:23:17,029 --> 00:23:14,080 as a training like uh this 594 00:23:18,710 --> 00:23:17,039 the the chinese sites where this 595 00:23:21,270 --> 00:23:18,720 uh indo-europeans have gone they've 596 00:23:23,830 --> 00:23:21,280 altered our concept of trade between the 597 00:23:26,230 --> 00:23:23,840 ancient world before things like the 598 00:23:28,950 --> 00:23:26,240 spice road were thought to have opened 599 00:23:30,950 --> 00:23:28,960 up around 200 bc now it's gone back a 600 00:23:33,350 --> 00:23:30,960 thousand maybe even two thousand years 601 00:23:36,789 --> 00:23:33,360 earlier than that and we know from 602 00:23:39,110 --> 00:23:36,799 artifacts uh exchanged uh found that 603 00:23:40,070 --> 00:23:39,120 these sites that the the the chinese 604 00:23:41,430 --> 00:23:40,080 gushi 605 00:23:43,669 --> 00:23:41,440 uh the people in china the 606 00:23:47,190 --> 00:23:43,679 indo-europeans and china that they were 607 00:23:50,110 --> 00:23:47,200 in trade with a region in afghanistan 608 00:23:53,269 --> 00:23:50,120 known as the bactria margiana 609 00:23:55,830 --> 00:23:53,279 archaeological complex and this is one 610 00:23:58,630 --> 00:23:55,840 of the spots that the invested religion 611 00:24:01,909 --> 00:23:58,640 that used hayoma uh um 612 00:24:04,230 --> 00:24:01,919 were located and in this site a russian 613 00:24:06,230 --> 00:24:04,240 archaeologist victor sarayanath has 614 00:24:08,870 --> 00:24:06,240 found three temple sites about the size 615 00:24:11,029 --> 00:24:08,880 of football fields and half these temple 616 00:24:14,310 --> 00:24:11,039 sites were dedicated 617 00:24:15,669 --> 00:24:14,320 to the preparation of a sacred beverage 618 00:24:19,350 --> 00:24:15,679 that contained 619 00:24:23,269 --> 00:24:19,360 cannabis ephedra and in some cases opium 620 00:24:27,430 --> 00:24:23,279 and um the ideas and this you know 621 00:24:29,029 --> 00:24:27,440 i don't want to present this as my own 622 00:24:32,230 --> 00:24:29,039 material on building this out of a 623 00:24:35,510 --> 00:24:32,240 variety of other researchers the idea 624 00:24:38,470 --> 00:24:35,520 come up with a number of different uh uh 625 00:24:42,390 --> 00:24:38,480 uh linguists is that 626 00:24:44,549 --> 00:24:42,400 the chinese term huma hayoma 627 00:24:47,110 --> 00:24:44,559 came down with the scythians who were 628 00:24:49,430 --> 00:24:47,120 known as hayoma varga and burnt cannabis 629 00:24:50,630 --> 00:24:49,440 and used chemists from archaeological 630 00:24:53,029 --> 00:24:50,640 evidence 631 00:24:56,149 --> 00:24:53,039 into this region known as bactria 632 00:24:58,630 --> 00:24:56,159 marginal archaeological complex 633 00:25:01,190 --> 00:24:58,640 and came with a name that it traveled 634 00:25:04,310 --> 00:25:01,200 with from china huma and this became 635 00:25:07,430 --> 00:25:04,320 hayoma and through further dialectic 636 00:25:09,830 --> 00:25:07,440 changes uh when these these people 637 00:25:11,750 --> 00:25:09,840 expanded into india where the aryan 638 00:25:15,350 --> 00:25:11,760 invasion of india 639 00:25:17,590 --> 00:25:15,360 uh um became soma of the vedas you know 640 00:25:19,510 --> 00:25:17,600 um and so that's kind of like the 641 00:25:20,549 --> 00:25:19,520 nutshell version but there's all sorts 642 00:25:23,190 --> 00:25:20,559 of other 643 00:25:25,590 --> 00:25:23,200 materials stories linguistic stuff 644 00:25:28,710 --> 00:25:25,600 related to that but that's kind of the 645 00:25:30,630 --> 00:25:28,720 basis for the claim you know uh and you 646 00:25:34,149 --> 00:25:30,640 know when i when i really took a closer 647 00:25:36,549 --> 00:25:34,159 look at watson's material regarding uh 648 00:25:37,350 --> 00:25:36,559 his claims about soma 649 00:25:39,909 --> 00:25:37,360 is 650 00:25:41,269 --> 00:25:39,919 that you know he's really far-reaching 651 00:25:43,510 --> 00:25:41,279 like there's you know you got to 652 00:25:45,909 --> 00:25:43,520 remember the the the term soma in the 653 00:25:47,750 --> 00:25:45,919 vedas is used in a variety of different 654 00:25:50,630 --> 00:25:47,760 ways some was a god 655 00:25:51,990 --> 00:25:50,640 somas the moon some was a drink some was 656 00:25:54,549 --> 00:25:52,000 a plant 657 00:25:57,590 --> 00:25:54,559 and uh um you know the moon in the sky 658 00:26:00,470 --> 00:25:57,600 was seen as a celestial cup of some from 659 00:26:01,830 --> 00:26:00,480 which the gods drank and as it waned uh 660 00:26:03,430 --> 00:26:01,840 it was being drunk and as it was 661 00:26:05,430 --> 00:26:03,440 replenished it was being refilled and 662 00:26:07,190 --> 00:26:05,440 all the soma rituals were wound up with 663 00:26:08,470 --> 00:26:07,200 the with the movement of the moon 664 00:26:10,950 --> 00:26:08,480 because of that and probably for 665 00:26:12,710 --> 00:26:10,960 agricultural purposes as well you know 666 00:26:16,149 --> 00:26:12,720 uh following the seasons and all that 667 00:26:18,470 --> 00:26:16,159 type of stuff um uh and boston was often 668 00:26:20,390 --> 00:26:18,480 interpreting these references that are 669 00:26:23,029 --> 00:26:20,400 clearly to the moon as you know for 670 00:26:25,750 --> 00:26:23,039 building his identification of soma and 671 00:26:28,390 --> 00:26:25,760 in his arguments uh for soma 672 00:26:29,350 --> 00:26:28,400 he left out the tenth mandela of the rig 673 00:26:32,230 --> 00:26:29,360 vettel 674 00:26:33,350 --> 00:26:32,240 and the other uh um vedic text 675 00:26:38,149 --> 00:26:33,360 uh 676 00:26:40,630 --> 00:26:38,159 was referring to a substitution well 677 00:26:42,470 --> 00:26:40,640 substitution did come into play uh at a 678 00:26:44,870 --> 00:26:42,480 later time this is why the identity of 679 00:26:47,269 --> 00:26:44,880 someone was lost but it has nothing to 680 00:26:49,669 --> 00:26:47,279 do with it uh uh uh being a mushroom 681 00:26:52,149 --> 00:26:49,679 which was quite clearly prohibited 682 00:26:54,950 --> 00:26:52,159 mushrooms were prohibited food for for 683 00:26:56,870 --> 00:26:54,960 brahmins and other people uh um going 684 00:26:58,789 --> 00:26:56,880 way back in the vedic religion because 685 00:27:01,510 --> 00:26:58,799 it was you know identified with growing 686 00:27:06,149 --> 00:27:01,520 a manure and things like that right 687 00:27:08,470 --> 00:27:06,159 which was was unclean in their eyes 688 00:27:10,070 --> 00:27:08,480 so uh yeah there's there's a lot more 689 00:27:12,470 --> 00:27:10,080 more to it than that that you can 690 00:27:15,909 --> 00:27:12,480 explain in a in a brief description but 691 00:27:18,470 --> 00:27:15,919 that's kind of the basic uh uh case for 692 00:27:20,549 --> 00:27:18,480 for cannabis and hayoma and if you 693 00:27:22,389 --> 00:27:20,559 search around on cannabis and soma or 694 00:27:24,549 --> 00:27:22,399 helm online you'll probably find some 695 00:27:26,389 --> 00:27:24,559 articles i wrote right go into more 696 00:27:29,510 --> 00:27:26,399 detail and link to other material 697 00:27:35,350 --> 00:27:31,510 it's fascinating the effort you've been 698 00:27:37,029 --> 00:27:35,360 mind-blowing man just mind-blowing and 699 00:27:37,909 --> 00:27:37,039 nothing more it's just mind-blowing to 700 00:27:39,110 --> 00:27:37,919 me 701 00:27:44,470 --> 00:27:39,120 how 702 00:27:46,630 --> 00:27:44,480 kind of bringing it back to a bit more 703 00:27:50,070 --> 00:27:46,640 of a western um 704 00:27:51,230 --> 00:27:50,080 idea or ideology of the illuminati um 705 00:27:55,590 --> 00:27:51,240 bavaria 706 00:27:56,470 --> 00:27:55,600 1776 it is very well documented 707 00:27:58,630 --> 00:27:56,480 that 708 00:28:01,350 --> 00:27:58,640 weisop and his 709 00:28:02,630 --> 00:28:01,360 cohorts were partaking of this 710 00:28:04,470 --> 00:28:02,640 and 711 00:28:07,750 --> 00:28:04,480 partaking of the tree of life as you've 712 00:28:09,110 --> 00:28:07,760 said and i find it also interesting 713 00:28:14,549 --> 00:28:09,120 that 714 00:28:18,870 --> 00:28:14,559 pre-predates 715 00:28:21,029 --> 00:28:18,880 uh 1776 out of berlin in 1714 716 00:28:23,029 --> 00:28:21,039 uh by the title a true and complete 717 00:28:26,230 --> 00:28:23,039 preparation of the philosopher's stone 718 00:28:30,230 --> 00:28:26,240 by the order of the golden rosicrucians 719 00:28:32,470 --> 00:28:30,240 again this is mentioned and when we come 720 00:28:34,470 --> 00:28:32,480 even to the united states 721 00:28:37,510 --> 00:28:34,480 and the 722 00:28:39,269 --> 00:28:37,520 the beginnings of the mystery schools 723 00:28:40,470 --> 00:28:39,279 here in the united states with pb 724 00:28:42,710 --> 00:28:40,480 randolph 725 00:28:44,630 --> 00:28:42,720 and the rosicrucians here the oldest 726 00:28:46,870 --> 00:28:44,640 secret societies here 727 00:28:51,990 --> 00:28:46,880 it is also 728 00:28:54,149 --> 00:28:52,000 amazing that pb randolph was the first 729 00:28:55,830 --> 00:28:54,159 major hashish dealer and i found it 730 00:28:57,350 --> 00:28:55,840 interesting that 731 00:28:58,789 --> 00:28:57,360 he was meeting with spiritualists 732 00:29:00,870 --> 00:28:58,799 mediums and others working with 733 00:29:02,070 --> 00:29:00,880 magnetism mesmerism 734 00:29:07,510 --> 00:29:02,080 and 735 00:29:09,430 --> 00:29:07,520 believe he first used hashish in france 736 00:29:10,830 --> 00:29:09,440 in 1855 737 00:29:13,830 --> 00:29:10,840 and there 738 00:29:16,630 --> 00:29:13,840 were there there is a long 739 00:29:19,269 --> 00:29:16,640 list to the aid to the development of 740 00:29:22,149 --> 00:29:19,279 clairvoyance allowing other feats with 741 00:29:24,389 --> 00:29:22,159 the use of of these substances 742 00:29:26,630 --> 00:29:24,399 so this has permeated 743 00:29:30,789 --> 00:29:26,640 pretty much every culture 744 00:29:32,710 --> 00:29:30,799 and it it just it blows my mind that i i 745 00:29:34,310 --> 00:29:32,720 recently heard and unfortunately i can't 746 00:29:36,710 --> 00:29:34,320 find the information 747 00:29:38,389 --> 00:29:36,720 that in the bible uh it's in your book 748 00:29:41,269 --> 00:29:38,399 as well but i can't find it i'm looking 749 00:29:44,870 --> 00:29:41,279 for it but it's somewhere in the 777 750 00:29:47,029 --> 00:29:44,880 pages of magic here um 751 00:29:49,430 --> 00:29:47,039 that a lot of this anointing with oils 752 00:29:51,750 --> 00:29:49,440 that we hear of biblically 753 00:29:55,350 --> 00:29:51,760 may have very well been cbd oils or 754 00:29:59,669 --> 00:29:56,870 absolutely well this is something i've 755 00:30:01,190 --> 00:29:59,679 written a lot about uh um and this goes 756 00:30:02,950 --> 00:30:01,200 back uh you know i think the most 757 00:30:06,549 --> 00:30:02,960 compelling evidence 758 00:30:08,389 --> 00:30:06,559 recent archaeological evidence out of 759 00:30:10,870 --> 00:30:08,399 israel where cannabis was found at a 760 00:30:14,070 --> 00:30:10,880 temple site but uh um 761 00:30:16,710 --> 00:30:14,080 these my books uh even libra 420 762 00:30:19,110 --> 00:30:16,720 were written long before uh 763 00:30:20,070 --> 00:30:19,120 this was known and when i was writing 764 00:30:22,470 --> 00:30:20,080 say 765 00:30:25,190 --> 00:30:22,480 my 2000 book sex drugs violence in the 766 00:30:27,190 --> 00:30:25,200 bible i was taking a really close look 767 00:30:28,549 --> 00:30:27,200 at references to this hebrew term 768 00:30:32,470 --> 00:30:28,559 cannabasa 769 00:30:35,110 --> 00:30:32,480 that occurs in exodus 30 23 in ezekiel 770 00:30:36,789 --> 00:30:35,120 and the song of songs in jeremiah and in 771 00:30:38,389 --> 00:30:36,799 the book of isaiah 772 00:30:40,230 --> 00:30:38,399 and 773 00:30:43,190 --> 00:30:40,240 sula bennett who was a polish 774 00:30:45,269 --> 00:30:43,200 anthropologist and etymologist 775 00:30:47,430 --> 00:30:45,279 suggested that this term was reference 776 00:30:49,590 --> 00:30:47,440 to cannabis based on following the 777 00:30:51,909 --> 00:30:49,600 modern term 778 00:30:55,029 --> 00:30:51,919 and and showing it uh similar terms for 779 00:30:57,269 --> 00:30:55,039 cannabis kanaba uh in in 780 00:30:59,830 --> 00:30:57,279 the the the later you know later periods 781 00:31:01,750 --> 00:30:59,840 of uh uh of the hebrew 782 00:31:04,310 --> 00:31:01,760 language as well as 783 00:31:06,549 --> 00:31:04,320 similarity to assyrian terms for 784 00:31:08,950 --> 00:31:06,559 cannabis kanaba 785 00:31:12,950 --> 00:31:08,960 and similar ways that it was used 786 00:31:14,950 --> 00:31:12,960 and generally most bibles translate 787 00:31:18,310 --> 00:31:14,960 modern king james and stuff like that 788 00:31:20,470 --> 00:31:18,320 translate it as calamus or fragrant king 789 00:31:24,389 --> 00:31:20,480 and sula bennett believed that when the 790 00:31:26,470 --> 00:31:24,399 hebrew was translated into the greek 791 00:31:28,230 --> 00:31:26,480 uh um uh you know a couple thousand 792 00:31:29,990 --> 00:31:28,240 years ago 793 00:31:32,870 --> 00:31:30,000 that they made a mistake and they 794 00:31:34,710 --> 00:31:32,880 mistranslated this term as calvinism is 795 00:31:36,630 --> 00:31:34,720 followed through in all later 796 00:31:38,710 --> 00:31:36,640 translations right it's a very 797 00:31:41,669 --> 00:31:38,720 controversial theory you know in the 798 00:31:44,230 --> 00:31:41,679 first of these references exodus 30 23 799 00:31:46,950 --> 00:31:44,240 god who fierce appears to moses and 800 00:31:50,389 --> 00:31:46,960 flames of fire within a burning bush 801 00:31:51,990 --> 00:31:50,399 uh um he he god commands him to make a 802 00:31:55,269 --> 00:31:52,000 holy anointing oil 803 00:31:58,830 --> 00:31:55,279 with about nine pounds of this cannabis 804 00:32:01,990 --> 00:31:58,840 kind of awesome uh uh um and mixed with 805 00:32:04,470 --> 00:32:02,000 uh mir and cinnamon and cassia into 806 00:32:06,789 --> 00:32:04,480 about a gallon and a half olive oil 807 00:32:09,029 --> 00:32:06,799 and every time that moses is to speak to 808 00:32:11,669 --> 00:32:09,039 the lord he's to anoint his skin with 809 00:32:14,950 --> 00:32:11,679 this oil as well as place some of this 810 00:32:17,430 --> 00:32:14,960 oil on the altar of incense 811 00:32:19,190 --> 00:32:17,440 and then he speaks the lord in the 812 00:32:21,830 --> 00:32:19,200 pillar of smoke 813 00:32:23,990 --> 00:32:21,840 over the altar of incense and he never 814 00:32:25,990 --> 00:32:24,000 discusses anything with the lord other 815 00:32:28,070 --> 00:32:26,000 than when this is burning and the smoke 816 00:32:30,389 --> 00:32:28,080 pillar's there and the other people of 817 00:32:32,310 --> 00:32:30,399 israel they never talk to god they only 818 00:32:33,909 --> 00:32:32,320 know that moses is talking to god if 819 00:32:34,950 --> 00:32:33,919 he's inside what's called the tent of 820 00:32:37,509 --> 00:32:34,960 the meeting 821 00:32:38,389 --> 00:32:37,519 uh uh and smokes coming out of it right 822 00:32:43,110 --> 00:32:38,399 you know 823 00:32:45,430 --> 00:32:43,120 um and uh um now interestingly uh um in 824 00:32:47,990 --> 00:32:45,440 2020 a number of you know there's a lot 825 00:32:49,430 --> 00:32:48,000 of news stories about this and check out 826 00:32:52,950 --> 00:32:49,440 anybody listening 827 00:32:55,029 --> 00:32:52,960 in iraq jerusalem uh going back to about 828 00:32:56,950 --> 00:32:55,039 700 bc 829 00:32:59,350 --> 00:32:56,960 uh they found a temple site jewish 830 00:33:00,710 --> 00:32:59,360 temple site and there were two altars at 831 00:33:02,710 --> 00:33:00,720 this site 832 00:33:04,870 --> 00:33:02,720 and uh uh 833 00:33:06,950 --> 00:33:04,880 and the temple room itself was about the 834 00:33:09,029 --> 00:33:06,960 size of a broom closet you know very 835 00:33:10,389 --> 00:33:09,039 small tight area that would have been 836 00:33:12,950 --> 00:33:10,399 enclosed 837 00:33:15,430 --> 00:33:12,960 and on one altar was burnt frankincense 838 00:33:18,549 --> 00:33:15,440 then the other altar was 839 00:33:22,630 --> 00:33:18,559 burnt a cannabis resin product not raw 840 00:33:25,590 --> 00:33:22,640 cannabis but a cannabis resin product 841 00:33:26,630 --> 00:33:25,600 and uh so it proves that there was this 842 00:33:29,750 --> 00:33:26,640 use 843 00:33:32,630 --> 00:33:29,760 of of candidates going back to this this 844 00:33:34,549 --> 00:33:32,640 time period in ancient israel now it's a 845 00:33:36,470 --> 00:33:34,559 very complicated story because what 846 00:33:40,070 --> 00:33:36,480 these references to 847 00:33:41,590 --> 00:33:40,080 uh kanabasam and the archaeology in iran 848 00:33:43,430 --> 00:33:41,600 jerusalem 849 00:33:45,110 --> 00:33:43,440 show is the reasons how it became 850 00:33:47,110 --> 00:33:45,120 prohibited and 851 00:33:49,509 --> 00:33:47,120 the big thing here 852 00:33:50,870 --> 00:33:49,519 uh is that these later references the 853 00:33:52,549 --> 00:33:50,880 first of these you know although the 854 00:33:54,310 --> 00:33:52,559 song the song is referenced it appears 855 00:33:56,149 --> 00:33:54,320 the beautiful garden and again 856 00:33:56,950 --> 00:33:56,159 associated with anointing oil but you 857 00:33:59,269 --> 00:33:56,960 know the 858 00:34:01,350 --> 00:33:59,279 the uh song of songs itself is kind of 859 00:34:03,430 --> 00:34:01,360 like a wedding story you know 860 00:34:07,590 --> 00:34:03,440 solomon in the show night is how it's 861 00:34:08,869 --> 00:34:07,600 portrayed um and uh then in the isaiah 862 00:34:12,629 --> 00:34:08,879 reference 863 00:34:14,310 --> 00:34:12,639 uh um god uh complains that he has not 864 00:34:16,310 --> 00:34:14,320 been brought in any kind of bosom but 865 00:34:18,389 --> 00:34:16,320 he's been worried with the burden of 866 00:34:20,950 --> 00:34:18,399 sacrifices of their sins and stuff like 867 00:34:24,149 --> 00:34:20,960 that so he's pissed off because he's not 868 00:34:26,389 --> 00:34:24,159 getting his due of of cannabis but 869 00:34:28,629 --> 00:34:26,399 elsewhere it's pretty clear 870 00:34:29,669 --> 00:34:28,639 that that it's not always the case 871 00:34:31,990 --> 00:34:29,679 because we 872 00:34:35,030 --> 00:34:32,000 really get an idea how one of the 873 00:34:37,829 --> 00:34:35,040 seraphim flew from me from the altar 874 00:34:39,990 --> 00:34:37,839 with a tongue of incense he held it to 875 00:34:42,710 --> 00:34:40,000 my lips and moe my iniquity was taken 876 00:34:45,430 --> 00:34:42,720 away and my sin was burned so the the 877 00:34:47,990 --> 00:34:45,440 seraphim basically picks up with tongs a 878 00:34:50,230 --> 00:34:48,000 burning coal from the altar of infant 879 00:34:51,909 --> 00:34:50,240 and holds it to isaiah's mouth so you 880 00:34:55,829 --> 00:34:51,919 can get a direct uh 881 00:34:59,109 --> 00:34:55,839 hit you know uh in ezekiel the reference 882 00:35:01,030 --> 00:34:59,119 uh to cannabis is a coming in on a trade 883 00:35:04,069 --> 00:35:01,040 caravan and then the final reference 884 00:35:07,190 --> 00:35:04,079 occurs in the book of jeremiah at a time 885 00:35:09,430 --> 00:35:07,200 where israel's being you know taken down 886 00:35:10,790 --> 00:35:09,440 by foreign kingdoms as syrians 887 00:35:13,109 --> 00:35:10,800 babylonians 888 00:35:15,670 --> 00:35:13,119 and whatnot you know 889 00:35:17,910 --> 00:35:15,680 cannabis is condemned and 890 00:35:19,030 --> 00:35:17,920 through jeremiah god says what do i care 891 00:35:22,390 --> 00:35:19,040 from your 892 00:35:25,030 --> 00:35:22,400 kana blossom from a distant land 893 00:35:27,670 --> 00:35:25,040 your incense of shiva 894 00:35:30,870 --> 00:35:27,680 and it's condemned you know and 895 00:35:34,710 --> 00:35:30,880 elsewhere in jeremiah we we find that it 896 00:35:36,790 --> 00:35:34,720 is uh um associated with the queen of 897 00:35:38,710 --> 00:35:36,800 heaven and the people of israel were 898 00:35:42,069 --> 00:35:38,720 burning incense the queen of heaven and 899 00:35:44,710 --> 00:35:42,079 jeremiah being a monotheist this is very 900 00:35:45,589 --> 00:35:44,720 condemning of this behavior and this is 901 00:35:47,910 --> 00:35:45,599 uh 902 00:35:51,190 --> 00:35:47,920 this is what happens with cannabis is 903 00:35:53,430 --> 00:35:51,200 that although not widely known you can 904 00:35:55,190 --> 00:35:53,440 easily look around to verify what i'm 905 00:35:55,990 --> 00:35:55,200 saying i'm not making outlandish planes 906 00:35:59,190 --> 00:35:56,000 here 907 00:36:00,470 --> 00:35:59,200 for a large part of the history of 908 00:36:02,790 --> 00:36:00,480 israel 909 00:36:05,270 --> 00:36:02,800 the region was polytheistic and that 910 00:36:06,950 --> 00:36:05,280 means the worship of more than one god 911 00:36:08,790 --> 00:36:06,960 it wasn't that they didn't your ship 912 00:36:10,150 --> 00:36:08,800 yahweh who we know as jehovah the 913 00:36:13,430 --> 00:36:10,160 biblical god 914 00:36:15,270 --> 00:36:13,440 uh but it's uh uh was not yahweh alone 915 00:36:17,349 --> 00:36:15,280 worship in there and even in the book of 916 00:36:18,470 --> 00:36:17,359 kings and chronicles this is detailed 917 00:36:20,870 --> 00:36:18,480 quite well 918 00:36:22,950 --> 00:36:20,880 and one of the most popular deities that 919 00:36:24,150 --> 00:36:22,960 was worshiped during this polytheistic 920 00:36:28,230 --> 00:36:24,160 period 921 00:36:30,310 --> 00:36:28,240 was yahweh's one-time wife asherah also 922 00:36:32,069 --> 00:36:30,320 known as the queen of heaven 923 00:36:34,710 --> 00:36:32,079 and others had written about such as the 924 00:36:37,430 --> 00:36:34,720 botanist william bowden her cults 925 00:36:39,430 --> 00:36:37,440 canaanite goddesses worship goes back 926 00:36:40,390 --> 00:36:39,440 you know thousands and thousands of 927 00:36:41,589 --> 00:36:40,400 years 928 00:36:44,470 --> 00:36:41,599 uh um 929 00:36:46,550 --> 00:36:44,480 was uh often associated with the use of 930 00:36:47,430 --> 00:36:46,560 cannabis infants and anointing oils as 931 00:36:50,230 --> 00:36:47,440 well 932 00:36:53,349 --> 00:36:50,240 and the song of songs is likely a 933 00:36:56,470 --> 00:36:53,359 remnant of this polytheistic period as 934 00:36:59,030 --> 00:36:56,480 solomon himself was accused of burning 935 00:37:00,630 --> 00:36:59,040 incense to the queen of heaven on high 936 00:37:02,870 --> 00:37:00,640 it's all throughout the bible these 937 00:37:06,230 --> 00:37:02,880 accusations against solomon 938 00:37:09,430 --> 00:37:06,240 um and uh may well be like the 939 00:37:11,190 --> 00:37:09,440 you know a semitic version of you know 940 00:37:14,630 --> 00:37:11,200 the near eastern literature say like 941 00:37:17,349 --> 00:37:14,640 that's devoted to ishtar and damuzi to 942 00:37:19,670 --> 00:37:17,359 god and goddess who are married and also 943 00:37:22,310 --> 00:37:19,680 involved with cannabis we know from 944 00:37:24,230 --> 00:37:22,320 assyrian references to kanabu that 945 00:37:25,190 --> 00:37:24,240 kanabu was used 946 00:37:28,470 --> 00:37:25,200 as a 947 00:37:30,550 --> 00:37:28,480 oil perfume by the cult of ishtar and 948 00:37:32,109 --> 00:37:30,560 other near eastern goddesses as well 949 00:37:33,750 --> 00:37:32,119 right and 950 00:37:37,109 --> 00:37:33,760 archaeologically 951 00:37:39,510 --> 00:37:37,119 there have been scores of these goddess 952 00:37:41,910 --> 00:37:39,520 figurines that represent this hebrew 953 00:37:44,550 --> 00:37:41,920 goddess ashraf found throughout 954 00:37:47,270 --> 00:37:44,560 israel as well as a number of 955 00:37:50,390 --> 00:37:47,280 inscriptions that refer to yahweh and 956 00:37:52,550 --> 00:37:50,400 his ashrae show them as husband and wife 957 00:37:56,310 --> 00:37:52,560 and so she was the queen of heaven and 958 00:37:59,829 --> 00:37:56,320 uh by the time of jeremiah um as i 959 00:38:02,069 --> 00:37:59,839 mentioned he his his text takes place uh 960 00:38:04,390 --> 00:38:02,079 during a time when the israelites were 961 00:38:06,310 --> 00:38:04,400 getting conquered by 962 00:38:09,349 --> 00:38:06,320 foreign nations like the babylonians and 963 00:38:13,829 --> 00:38:09,359 syrians a whole list goes on you know 964 00:38:19,910 --> 00:38:16,829 foreign nations dominating the area 965 00:38:21,589 --> 00:38:19,920 um and uh there was a need to 966 00:38:23,990 --> 00:38:21,599 consolidate 967 00:38:26,230 --> 00:38:24,000 the kingdom and you know there was no 968 00:38:28,710 --> 00:38:26,240 division between religion and politics 969 00:38:29,829 --> 00:38:28,720 that way and monotheism as much as a 970 00:38:32,310 --> 00:38:29,839 religious 971 00:38:34,230 --> 00:38:32,320 revolution was a political one because 972 00:38:36,230 --> 00:38:34,240 there would be only one god that 973 00:38:38,710 --> 00:38:36,240 everybody worshipped that everybody gave 974 00:38:40,630 --> 00:38:38,720 offerings to and that was the god of the 975 00:38:43,030 --> 00:38:40,640 kingdom the god of the king his 976 00:38:45,430 --> 00:38:43,040 representative on earth you know 977 00:38:47,190 --> 00:38:45,440 like the king was the holy king you know 978 00:38:50,870 --> 00:38:47,200 god's representative 979 00:38:52,950 --> 00:38:50,880 and uh um polytheism did not fit in with 980 00:38:55,750 --> 00:38:52,960 that and this is why 981 00:38:58,470 --> 00:38:55,760 cannabis became out of favor 982 00:39:00,069 --> 00:38:58,480 in the old testament period and why it 983 00:39:02,310 --> 00:39:00,079 disappeared and now while we're 984 00:39:05,829 --> 00:39:02,320 re-finding out about both 985 00:39:08,390 --> 00:39:05,839 the artifacts of the goddess but also 986 00:39:10,790 --> 00:39:08,400 this temple site in iraq jerusalem and 987 00:39:13,109 --> 00:39:10,800 as i mentioned there were two altars in 988 00:39:15,829 --> 00:39:13,119 this temple site in iraq jerusalem one 989 00:39:17,589 --> 00:39:15,839 was burped for burning frankincense and 990 00:39:19,750 --> 00:39:17,599 the other was used for burning capital 991 00:39:22,230 --> 00:39:19,760 cannabis there was also two altar stones 992 00:39:24,710 --> 00:39:22,240 in the in the site as well one for 993 00:39:26,550 --> 00:39:24,720 yahweh and one for his wife asherah 994 00:39:29,349 --> 00:39:26,560 there's no one this site was already 995 00:39:33,030 --> 00:39:29,359 known before the cannabis residues were 996 00:39:34,550 --> 00:39:33,040 discovered as a archaeological site that 997 00:39:37,750 --> 00:39:34,560 attested to 998 00:39:40,470 --> 00:39:37,760 the combined warship of yahweh and 999 00:39:43,829 --> 00:39:40,480 ashraf you know and we could take a look 1000 00:39:45,510 --> 00:39:43,839 at you know how the prohibition of the 1001 00:39:47,510 --> 00:39:45,520 anthogens and erasing them from 1002 00:39:49,829 --> 00:39:47,520 history's affected history 1003 00:39:53,990 --> 00:39:49,839 but when you consider 1004 00:39:57,109 --> 00:39:54,000 erasing the divine feminine from history 1005 00:39:59,910 --> 00:39:57,119 and the thousands of years uh followed 1006 00:40:01,109 --> 00:39:59,920 of women being second-class citizens 1007 00:40:03,510 --> 00:40:01,119 even 1008 00:40:06,710 --> 00:40:03,520 catholic and possession as as as 1009 00:40:07,670 --> 00:40:06,720 identified in the old testament owned by 1010 00:40:12,309 --> 00:40:07,680 men 1011 00:40:14,230 --> 00:40:12,319 uh uh um the the results of that 1012 00:40:15,190 --> 00:40:14,240 are monumental 1013 00:40:17,910 --> 00:40:15,200 you know 1014 00:40:21,829 --> 00:40:17,920 uh uh uh horrific 1015 00:40:25,430 --> 00:40:21,839 and uh to be a tone for 1016 00:40:28,150 --> 00:40:25,440 totally totally yes 1017 00:40:29,829 --> 00:40:28,160 over binding control and i'm so glad you 1018 00:40:32,870 --> 00:40:29,839 brought up the divine feminine it's such 1019 00:40:35,109 --> 00:40:32,880 a big part of this and the ancient 1020 00:40:37,910 --> 00:40:35,119 religions i also 1021 00:40:39,030 --> 00:40:37,920 i'm blown away if you don't mind there's 1022 00:41:18,230 --> 00:40:39,040 a 1023 00:41:20,790 --> 00:41:18,240 with the mystery schools secret 1024 00:41:24,950 --> 00:41:20,800 societies and kind of bringing back 1025 00:41:27,190 --> 00:41:24,960 how all of this sort of trickles into 1026 00:41:29,990 --> 00:41:27,200 american freemasonry and our founding 1027 00:41:33,109 --> 00:41:30,000 fathers had many plantations of hemp 1028 00:41:35,910 --> 00:41:33,119 and you know i find it just fascinating 1029 00:41:37,430 --> 00:41:35,920 how this has been behind the veil from 1030 00:41:38,550 --> 00:41:37,440 the general public 1031 00:41:40,870 --> 00:41:38,560 for 1032 00:41:43,829 --> 00:41:40,880 millennia and and 1033 00:41:45,510 --> 00:41:43,839 with the occult here in the united 1034 00:41:47,829 --> 00:41:45,520 states which is 1035 00:41:50,470 --> 00:41:47,839 you know a little bit selfish to only 1036 00:41:53,589 --> 00:41:50,480 look at ourselves but we see the same 1037 00:41:56,870 --> 00:41:53,599 thing we see the uh 1038 00:41:59,510 --> 00:41:56,880 hashish or this psychic substance 1039 00:42:02,710 --> 00:41:59,520 being used by well probably the most 1040 00:42:05,270 --> 00:42:02,720 influent influential occultists namely 1041 00:42:08,550 --> 00:42:05,280 aleister crowley madame blavatsky pb 1042 00:42:11,349 --> 00:42:08,560 randolph they were all users of hashish 1043 00:42:15,990 --> 00:42:11,359 and it seems that in the search for soul 1044 00:42:19,430 --> 00:42:16,000 consciousness this is sort of the vip um 1045 00:42:22,390 --> 00:42:19,440 plant and it this goes heavily into that 1046 00:42:25,349 --> 00:42:22,400 divine feminine that you mentioned and 1047 00:42:26,390 --> 00:42:25,359 it is just mind-blowing to me all of the 1048 00:42:31,349 --> 00:42:26,400 layers 1049 00:42:35,109 --> 00:42:33,030 yeah absolutely well it's mind-blowing 1050 00:42:37,030 --> 00:42:35,119 to me too even you know like when i when 1051 00:42:39,670 --> 00:42:37,040 i was funny because like when i was 1052 00:42:42,390 --> 00:42:39,680 started writing libra 420 i knew there 1053 00:42:44,470 --> 00:42:42,400 was a lot of this like 19th century 1054 00:42:45,990 --> 00:42:44,480 material you know uh crowley and 1055 00:42:47,270 --> 00:42:46,000 randolph and some of this you know and i 1056 00:42:49,109 --> 00:42:47,280 thought okay well that would probably be 1057 00:42:51,430 --> 00:42:49,119 what will fill the book 1058 00:42:53,510 --> 00:42:51,440 uh but i thought i was really scratching 1059 00:42:56,550 --> 00:42:53,520 when i began to look at medieval 1060 00:42:57,829 --> 00:42:56,560 renaissance material uh ceremonial magic 1061 00:43:03,829 --> 00:42:57,839 and 1062 00:43:05,910 --> 00:43:03,839 chapter on that uh in the end i had to 1063 00:43:08,390 --> 00:43:05,920 relegate all my 19th century material 1064 00:43:10,870 --> 00:43:08,400 down to about one chapter and i ended up 1065 00:43:14,390 --> 00:43:10,880 focusing on the earlier period because 1066 00:43:16,470 --> 00:43:14,400 there was so much more evidence uh uh 1067 00:43:19,270 --> 00:43:16,480 for a cannabis role 1068 00:43:22,390 --> 00:43:19,280 in both magic and alchemy than i ever 1069 00:43:24,150 --> 00:43:22,400 realized uh i was you know and again you 1070 00:43:25,990 --> 00:43:24,160 know i think it just happens to be a 1071 00:43:27,670 --> 00:43:26,000 dude of being born in the right time 1072 00:43:29,990 --> 00:43:27,680 period with the right type of thing that 1073 00:43:32,710 --> 00:43:30,000 i was able to come across this you know 1074 00:43:35,349 --> 00:43:32,720 uh along with the millions of books that 1075 00:43:38,309 --> 00:43:35,359 uh have been scanned and entered into 1076 00:43:41,430 --> 00:43:38,319 google search engines uh were many latin 1077 00:43:42,550 --> 00:43:41,440 manuscripts going back to the 16th 17th 1078 00:43:45,990 --> 00:43:42,560 century 1079 00:43:48,710 --> 00:43:46,000 uh um and fortunately cannabis is about 1080 00:43:51,030 --> 00:43:48,720 spelt the same way or very similarly uh 1081 00:43:53,430 --> 00:43:51,040 in a lot of these latin manuscripts you 1082 00:43:56,230 --> 00:43:53,440 can narrow down time periods you know 1083 00:43:59,270 --> 00:43:56,240 search just the 16th century or whatever 1084 00:44:02,870 --> 00:43:59,280 uh um and search for true books from 1085 00:44:04,790 --> 00:44:02,880 that time period you know and uh um i 1086 00:44:06,829 --> 00:44:04,800 began to do this you know and most of 1087 00:44:09,270 --> 00:44:06,839 the stuff is just you know agricultural 1088 00:44:11,829 --> 00:44:09,280 information uh how to grow for fiber 1089 00:44:13,750 --> 00:44:11,839 seed but once in a while there'd be some 1090 00:44:15,750 --> 00:44:13,760 alchemical text 1091 00:44:17,910 --> 00:44:15,760 by somebody like mull or other some 1092 00:44:20,150 --> 00:44:17,920 other famous alchemist you know 1093 00:44:21,270 --> 00:44:20,160 jono cardano or something like that you 1094 00:44:24,550 --> 00:44:21,280 know 1095 00:44:28,390 --> 00:44:24,560 um and uh then you you go okay let's 1096 00:44:31,750 --> 00:44:28,400 look at this and i was able to identify 1097 00:44:34,950 --> 00:44:31,760 uh references to cannabis as arcanums 1098 00:44:37,109 --> 00:44:34,960 which is the sacred elixir in in uh uh 1099 00:44:39,190 --> 00:44:37,119 also known as quintessences which 1100 00:44:41,190 --> 00:44:39,200 represent the fifth essence and this was 1101 00:44:43,910 --> 00:44:41,200 again basically tinkering tincturing was 1102 00:44:47,349 --> 00:44:43,920 a holy act and alchemy even the making 1103 00:44:49,430 --> 00:44:47,359 of like you know a strong alcohol was an 1104 00:44:50,710 --> 00:44:49,440 alchemical art you know they would like 1105 00:44:53,030 --> 00:44:50,720 take wine 1106 00:44:55,829 --> 00:44:53,040 bury it let it separate 1107 00:44:57,829 --> 00:44:55,839 uh keep the clear liquid repeat this 1108 00:45:00,390 --> 00:44:57,839 process you know five times until they 1109 00:45:03,109 --> 00:45:00,400 got a really potent uh clear liquid that 1110 00:45:04,470 --> 00:45:03,119 was a very very strong alcohol 1111 00:45:06,790 --> 00:45:04,480 a substance 1112 00:45:09,430 --> 00:45:06,800 and then they would take plants and they 1113 00:45:11,430 --> 00:45:09,440 would put in the plants and then 1114 00:45:13,430 --> 00:45:11,440 take the plants out put more plants in 1115 00:45:15,589 --> 00:45:13,440 take it out and they would get what they 1116 00:45:17,990 --> 00:45:15,599 thought was the fifth essence the soul 1117 00:45:20,550 --> 00:45:18,000 of the plant into this tincture which 1118 00:45:21,829 --> 00:45:20,560 was considered a chemical heaven and so 1119 00:45:24,230 --> 00:45:21,839 it would take the essence the 1120 00:45:26,550 --> 00:45:24,240 quintessence the fifth essence into 1121 00:45:29,510 --> 00:45:26,560 itself as the chemical heaven and 1122 00:45:31,589 --> 00:45:29,520 paracelsus and others perfected this art 1123 00:45:34,390 --> 00:45:31,599 and they wrote you know specifically 1124 00:45:36,550 --> 00:45:34,400 about cannabis and opium and other other 1125 00:45:40,230 --> 00:45:36,560 such plants being used and such 1126 00:45:43,190 --> 00:45:40,240 tinctures uh um and uh 1127 00:45:46,390 --> 00:45:43,200 it's it's it's firm that there was a 1128 00:45:48,470 --> 00:45:46,400 very powerful role in spigeric alchemy 1129 00:45:51,349 --> 00:45:48,480 for cannabis and other psychoactive 1130 00:45:52,630 --> 00:45:51,359 substances now uh well-documented and in 1131 00:45:57,030 --> 00:45:52,640 magic 1132 00:46:00,390 --> 00:45:57,040 such as the picatrix which goes back to 1133 00:46:05,510 --> 00:46:02,550 an islamic book of magic that was 1134 00:46:07,349 --> 00:46:05,520 translated into latin uh in the 10th or 1135 00:46:09,510 --> 00:46:07,359 12th century i forget but was kind of 1136 00:46:11,589 --> 00:46:09,520 like the founding document of the 1137 00:46:15,270 --> 00:46:11,599 magical tradition and there's references 1138 00:46:17,589 --> 00:46:15,280 to hashish in there 1139 00:46:19,430 --> 00:46:17,599 for magical purposes you know and we 1140 00:46:21,190 --> 00:46:19,440 know later 1141 00:46:22,710 --> 00:46:21,200 references you know we talked about the 1142 00:46:25,030 --> 00:46:22,720 anointing oil 1143 00:46:28,390 --> 00:46:25,040 uh in the biblical well later magical 1144 00:46:31,270 --> 00:46:28,400 text influenced by the bible such as uh 1145 00:46:33,270 --> 00:46:31,280 the separate raziale libra salomanus 1146 00:46:36,710 --> 00:46:33,280 they prescribed cannabis mixed with 1147 00:46:38,470 --> 00:46:36,720 other plants uh for seeing visions in 1148 00:46:39,589 --> 00:46:38,480 magic mirrors this is one of the 1149 00:46:40,950 --> 00:46:39,599 purposes 1150 00:46:42,710 --> 00:46:40,960 that 1151 00:46:45,589 --> 00:46:42,720 randolph and other 1152 00:46:47,349 --> 00:46:45,599 occult people use cannabis they would 1153 00:46:50,150 --> 00:46:47,359 take cannabis 1154 00:46:52,870 --> 00:46:50,160 sometimes other substances 1155 00:46:55,670 --> 00:46:52,880 and they would stare into opaque mirrors 1156 00:46:57,190 --> 00:46:55,680 until they began to see shapes and 1157 00:46:59,510 --> 00:46:57,200 things like that and then they would 1158 00:47:01,190 --> 00:46:59,520 start trying to interpret this and even 1159 00:47:02,150 --> 00:47:01,200 meet things in there this was like a 1160 00:47:04,390 --> 00:47:02,160 tool 1161 00:47:06,630 --> 00:47:04,400 uh for interacting with the unconscious 1162 00:47:08,710 --> 00:47:06,640 in much the same way we interact with 1163 00:47:10,390 --> 00:47:08,720 the unconscious when we dream and stuff 1164 00:47:14,069 --> 00:47:10,400 like that very powerful 1165 00:47:16,069 --> 00:47:14,079 magical tool and cannabis has a long 1166 00:47:19,510 --> 00:47:16,079 long association with this particular 1167 00:47:23,030 --> 00:47:19,520 act likely this was a method used by dr 1168 00:47:26,069 --> 00:47:23,040 john d and his associate edward kelly 1169 00:47:28,950 --> 00:47:26,079 they write about uh um uh incense is 1170 00:47:31,589 --> 00:47:28,960 being used ointments and other uh 1171 00:47:34,950 --> 00:47:31,599 chemicals you know uh uh being used in 1172 00:47:36,870 --> 00:47:34,960 in in these books uh uh uh of his 1173 00:47:39,109 --> 00:47:36,880 accounts with spirits you know there's 1174 00:47:41,670 --> 00:47:39,119 clear references that indicate the use 1175 00:47:44,710 --> 00:47:41,680 of such psychoactive preparations 1176 00:47:47,190 --> 00:47:44,720 uh um so yeah this is like you know 1177 00:47:49,510 --> 00:47:47,200 really really really profound stuff 1178 00:47:51,510 --> 00:47:49,520 yeah man you are hitting all the right 1179 00:47:54,390 --> 00:47:51,520 things i'm firing on all cylinders and 1180 00:47:56,790 --> 00:47:54,400 you're connecting them so perfectly as 1181 00:47:58,470 --> 00:47:56,800 you mentioned the solomonic magic and 1182 00:47:59,510 --> 00:47:58,480 how solomon was 1183 00:48:01,430 --> 00:47:59,520 was 1184 00:48:03,670 --> 00:48:01,440 you know using 1185 00:48:07,109 --> 00:48:03,680 this type of thing to literally bind 1186 00:48:09,510 --> 00:48:07,119 demons into magic mirrors and yeah um 1187 00:48:12,950 --> 00:48:09,520 this is this is fascinating that the 1188 00:48:15,910 --> 00:48:12,960 same these same practices ha 1189 00:48:17,829 --> 00:48:15,920 basically infiltrated in united states 1190 00:48:20,870 --> 00:48:17,839 mysticism i mean that's just blatant in 1191 00:48:23,750 --> 00:48:20,880 our face with in a more contemporary 1192 00:48:27,829 --> 00:48:23,760 time but as you said this has been going 1193 00:48:29,190 --> 00:48:27,839 on for ages and one of my favorite 1194 00:48:32,230 --> 00:48:29,200 subjects and i don't know if you did 1195 00:48:35,430 --> 00:48:32,240 this just by accident or coincidence 1196 00:48:39,030 --> 00:48:35,440 around page 420 which is in weed um i 1197 00:48:42,150 --> 00:48:39,040 find this absolutely fascinating is i'm 1198 00:48:45,190 --> 00:48:42,160 very deeply uh involved in researching 1199 00:48:48,950 --> 00:48:45,200 shape shifters native american folklore 1200 00:48:51,349 --> 00:48:48,960 skinwalkers etc but the witches 1201 00:48:54,309 --> 00:48:51,359 ointments as you write in your book are 1202 00:48:56,390 --> 00:48:54,319 particularly involved as a vehicle which 1203 00:48:59,030 --> 00:48:56,400 enable the witch to travel 1204 00:49:00,630 --> 00:48:59,040 and that this is in a variety of ways 1205 00:49:04,069 --> 00:49:00,640 and you know 1206 00:49:05,109 --> 00:49:04,079 it seems as if just about every 1207 00:49:07,750 --> 00:49:05,119 major 1208 00:49:10,549 --> 00:49:07,760 religion spiritual idea 1209 00:49:12,950 --> 00:49:10,559 um even secret society 1210 00:49:15,829 --> 00:49:12,960 there is a very 1211 00:49:18,950 --> 00:49:15,839 obvious and hard to ignore foundation 1212 00:49:22,309 --> 00:49:18,960 that is surrounded by the ideas of 1213 00:49:26,710 --> 00:49:24,549 well i agree yeah uh you know like you 1214 00:49:29,349 --> 00:49:26,720 can take a look at like all the major 1215 00:49:32,470 --> 00:49:29,359 religions taoism uh you know there's 1216 00:49:36,470 --> 00:49:32,480 like uh taoist references to 1217 00:49:38,390 --> 00:49:36,480 cannabis going back 26 2700 years ago uh 1218 00:49:41,030 --> 00:49:38,400 um and here's like a core train i think 1219 00:49:41,910 --> 00:49:41,040 written around 400 bc first yin then 1220 00:49:44,150 --> 00:49:41,920 again 1221 00:49:46,309 --> 00:49:44,160 no one knows what i do jake budge or 1222 00:49:48,549 --> 00:49:46,319 holy hemp for the one that lives apart 1223 00:49:51,270 --> 00:49:48,559 they would burn it in intense burners uh 1224 00:49:52,950 --> 00:49:51,280 to travel to the uh other world and 1225 00:49:56,470 --> 00:49:52,960 things like that and there's there's 1226 00:49:58,309 --> 00:49:56,480 well-known uh documentation of this 1227 00:50:00,309 --> 00:49:58,319 and they likely picked it up off the 1228 00:50:01,670 --> 00:50:00,319 practices of the gucci that i was 1229 00:50:04,150 --> 00:50:01,680 referring to earlier because they were 1230 00:50:06,470 --> 00:50:04,160 there on the same time period uh was 1231 00:50:08,790 --> 00:50:06,480 when later confucianism came into play 1232 00:50:11,270 --> 00:50:08,800 that these practices fell out of favor 1233 00:50:13,349 --> 00:50:11,280 uh in india it's still you know used in 1234 00:50:17,190 --> 00:50:13,359 rituals to shiva who's the oldest 1235 00:50:20,549 --> 00:50:17,200 continually worshiped uh god on earth 1236 00:50:23,349 --> 00:50:20,559 in in the shinto religion of japan taima 1237 00:50:24,549 --> 00:50:23,359 is a sacred paper a sacred claw sacred 1238 00:50:26,390 --> 00:50:24,559 incense 1239 00:50:30,710 --> 00:50:26,400 and that's another ancient religion that 1240 00:50:33,589 --> 00:50:30,720 you know is is pre-european contact uh 1241 00:50:35,589 --> 00:50:33,599 um and uh uh we've already talked about 1242 00:50:37,349 --> 00:50:35,599 the hebrew religion i believe this 1243 00:50:39,109 --> 00:50:37,359 continues on in the early christian 1244 00:50:41,589 --> 00:50:39,119 period and there's a good case to be 1245 00:50:43,990 --> 00:50:41,599 made uh um for the role of these same 1246 00:50:46,309 --> 00:50:44,000 anointing laws we were talking about uh 1247 00:50:48,230 --> 00:50:46,319 and incenses in the hebrew period uh 1248 00:50:50,549 --> 00:50:48,240 throughout the christian period uh 1249 00:50:53,349 --> 00:50:50,559 particularly among gnostic groups where 1250 00:50:55,430 --> 00:50:53,359 which where there's clear evidence of 1251 00:50:58,549 --> 00:50:55,440 anthogen ingestion 1252 00:51:00,470 --> 00:50:58,559 um and uh in zoroastrian religion which 1253 00:51:02,230 --> 00:51:00,480 was very influential 1254 00:51:04,069 --> 00:51:02,240 on magic they were known as the agent 1255 00:51:06,230 --> 00:51:04,079 magi 1256 00:51:08,630 --> 00:51:06,240 and also on both the hebrew and 1257 00:51:10,630 --> 00:51:08,640 christian and islamic religion 1258 00:51:12,790 --> 00:51:10,640 very influential on them 1259 00:51:14,870 --> 00:51:12,800 clearly there's these references to 1260 00:51:16,870 --> 00:51:14,880 cannabis infused wines and other 1261 00:51:20,150 --> 00:51:16,880 preparations as well 1262 00:51:24,390 --> 00:51:20,160 and uh in islam as well 1263 00:51:26,630 --> 00:51:24,400 sufis and dervishes uh um uh um have a 1264 00:51:29,510 --> 00:51:26,640 long history with hashish 1265 00:51:32,230 --> 00:51:29,520 and uh um there's even texts like uh the 1266 00:51:33,750 --> 00:51:32,240 davastan that refer to the prophet 1267 00:51:35,510 --> 00:51:33,760 himself 1268 00:51:38,230 --> 00:51:35,520 ingesting bomb 1269 00:51:39,990 --> 00:51:38,240 uh um and so 1270 00:51:41,910 --> 00:51:40,000 really interesting stuff you know what i 1271 00:51:43,750 --> 00:51:41,920 mean like and we're talking about the 1272 00:51:45,510 --> 00:51:43,760 early periods of these traditions which 1273 00:51:46,630 --> 00:51:45,520 is really important the inspirational 1274 00:51:48,630 --> 00:51:46,640 period 1275 00:51:49,829 --> 00:51:48,640 before they just became dead traditions 1276 00:51:52,150 --> 00:51:49,839 and what i mean by about the dead 1277 00:51:54,309 --> 00:51:52,160 tradition is 1278 00:51:57,109 --> 00:51:54,319 it's it's it's like the bible it's a 1279 00:51:59,829 --> 00:51:57,119 document it's not like a thriving living 1280 00:52:01,829 --> 00:51:59,839 thing you know it's not like there's new 1281 00:52:03,670 --> 00:52:01,839 revelations happening and stuff like 1282 00:52:05,910 --> 00:52:03,680 that it's just okay we keep going back 1283 00:52:07,829 --> 00:52:05,920 to this one thing that happened you know 1284 00:52:11,190 --> 00:52:07,839 way back when and that's it and that's 1285 00:52:13,910 --> 00:52:11,200 where it stopped you know uh um cannabis 1286 00:52:16,710 --> 00:52:13,920 is is the representative of the living 1287 00:52:18,390 --> 00:52:16,720 tradition man it's a tree of life which 1288 00:52:21,670 --> 00:52:18,400 all these different faiths these 1289 00:52:24,150 --> 00:52:21,680 different nationalities uh uh sprouted 1290 00:52:25,030 --> 00:52:24,160 from the common factor the common root 1291 00:52:28,549 --> 00:52:25,040 man 1292 00:52:30,150 --> 00:52:28,559 and uh like i say i think that this is 1293 00:52:31,990 --> 00:52:30,160 this is the time 1294 00:52:34,230 --> 00:52:32,000 where that's gonna become a reality 1295 00:52:37,109 --> 00:52:34,240 where people are are going to reawaken 1296 00:52:39,349 --> 00:52:37,119 to this magic you know to this this this 1297 00:52:40,230 --> 00:52:39,359 the reality of the spiritual world you 1298 00:52:43,030 --> 00:52:40,240 know 1299 00:52:45,670 --> 00:52:43,040 it's a really big deal chris and the way 1300 00:52:47,750 --> 00:52:45,680 that you have been showing people the 1301 00:52:49,910 --> 00:52:47,760 historical role of cannabis and the 1302 00:52:51,030 --> 00:52:49,920 spiritual life of humanity is a really 1303 00:52:55,430 --> 00:52:51,040 big deal 1304 00:52:57,910 --> 00:52:55,440 it is it's very noble of you um kind of 1305 00:53:01,270 --> 00:52:57,920 kind of fast forward to uh something 1306 00:53:03,349 --> 00:53:01,280 recent and how you know people 1307 00:53:05,990 --> 00:53:03,359 are scared of fridays that fall on the 1308 00:53:09,030 --> 00:53:06,000 13th has happened earlier this month 1309 00:53:12,470 --> 00:53:09,040 i find it very interesting that and i'm 1310 00:53:15,589 --> 00:53:12,480 fascinated by the hashishine or those 1311 00:53:17,910 --> 00:53:15,599 assassins that the knights templar 1312 00:53:20,069 --> 00:53:17,920 gained so much knowledge for and most 1313 00:53:21,829 --> 00:53:20,079 likely burned at the stake for can we go 1314 00:53:23,829 --> 00:53:21,839 into that just a little bit to kind of 1315 00:53:25,910 --> 00:53:23,839 wrap things up 1316 00:53:27,589 --> 00:53:25,920 absolutely you know friday the 13th is 1317 00:53:29,430 --> 00:53:27,599 yes of course the the day they were 1318 00:53:32,309 --> 00:53:29,440 rounded up by the church 1319 00:53:35,030 --> 00:53:32,319 um and uh you know it's interestingly 1320 00:53:37,109 --> 00:53:35,040 enough that uh at two of the major 1321 00:53:38,390 --> 00:53:37,119 templar raids both in england and in 1322 00:53:40,470 --> 00:53:38,400 france 1323 00:53:42,309 --> 00:53:40,480 cannabis was recorded large amounts of 1324 00:53:43,910 --> 00:53:42,319 cannabis were reported on the list of 1325 00:53:45,910 --> 00:53:43,920 seized items they don't go into the 1326 00:53:47,589 --> 00:53:45,920 detail anything other than it was 1327 00:53:48,950 --> 00:53:47,599 cannabis but if it was cloth or rope it 1328 00:53:51,829 --> 00:53:48,960 would have been listed as such because 1329 00:53:54,950 --> 00:53:51,839 all these items were specifically 1330 00:53:57,589 --> 00:53:54,960 uh identified in these in these seizure 1331 00:54:00,309 --> 00:53:57,599 lists of the church where they rated the 1332 00:54:02,230 --> 00:54:00,319 the templars you know and 1333 00:54:03,030 --> 00:54:02,240 long before i ever wrote about this 1334 00:54:05,510 --> 00:54:03,040 there's 1335 00:54:07,030 --> 00:54:05,520 was claims that the templars had come 1336 00:54:09,349 --> 00:54:07,040 into contact 1337 00:54:11,670 --> 00:54:09,359 uh with the hash of sheens or that a 1338 00:54:13,990 --> 00:54:11,680 group known more modernly as the 1339 00:54:17,270 --> 00:54:14,000 assassins and there's a long-standing 1340 00:54:19,430 --> 00:54:17,280 etymological theory that uh hashish and 1341 00:54:22,069 --> 00:54:19,440 assassin come from the same route and 1342 00:54:23,670 --> 00:54:22,079 this is this earlier term 1343 00:54:26,950 --> 00:54:23,680 and the 1344 00:54:29,589 --> 00:54:26,960 uh um a lot of people say that uh 1345 00:54:33,030 --> 00:54:29,599 this was just a a term labeled at them 1346 00:54:35,109 --> 00:54:33,040 by their enemies they never used hashish 1347 00:54:36,710 --> 00:54:35,119 but became associated with them because 1348 00:54:38,950 --> 00:54:36,720 it was a way to attack and stuff like 1349 00:54:41,109 --> 00:54:38,960 that but i don't think these people 1350 00:54:43,910 --> 00:54:41,119 realize the esoteric history and 1351 00:54:47,109 --> 00:54:43,920 connection to hashish and that the 1352 00:54:48,230 --> 00:54:47,119 hashishing or an islamic uh group that 1353 00:54:50,950 --> 00:54:48,240 was very 1354 00:54:53,030 --> 00:54:50,960 very influenced by uh the persians or 1355 00:54:54,950 --> 00:54:53,040 aspirins which i mentioned earlier 1356 00:54:56,150 --> 00:54:54,960 and in the famous uh tale coming you 1357 00:54:57,910 --> 00:54:56,160 know and you gotta remember like a lot 1358 00:54:59,589 --> 00:54:57,920 of the history you know about them come 1359 00:55:01,910 --> 00:54:59,599 from people that are against them or 1360 00:55:03,750 --> 00:55:01,920 europeans like marco polo 1361 00:55:05,030 --> 00:55:03,760 and uh 1362 00:55:06,870 --> 00:55:05,040 um uh 1363 00:55:07,910 --> 00:55:06,880 one of the accusations made against him 1364 00:55:10,390 --> 00:55:07,920 was that 1365 00:55:13,589 --> 00:55:10,400 the leader of the uh assassins would get 1366 00:55:15,430 --> 00:55:13,599 young men up to his mountain abode and 1367 00:55:17,510 --> 00:55:15,440 he'd dose him with hashish and say he's 1368 00:55:19,030 --> 00:55:17,520 gonna show them paradise they'd take so 1369 00:55:21,750 --> 00:55:19,040 much they'd get knocked out and they'd 1370 00:55:24,789 --> 00:55:21,760 wake up in a paradise little garden uh 1371 00:55:26,390 --> 00:55:24,799 surrounded by beautiful nymphs and 1372 00:55:28,150 --> 00:55:26,400 then he'd dose them again and they'd 1373 00:55:29,750 --> 00:55:28,160 wake up and he'd say see now you've seen 1374 00:55:31,589 --> 00:55:29,760 paradise you must serve me if you ever 1375 00:55:33,430 --> 00:55:31,599 want to go there again right 1376 00:55:35,349 --> 00:55:33,440 that's the myth 1377 00:55:37,270 --> 00:55:35,359 but um 1378 00:55:39,430 --> 00:55:37,280 in many ways it's like just kind of a 1379 00:55:42,710 --> 00:55:39,440 continuation 1380 00:55:45,270 --> 00:55:42,720 of of the zoroastrian use of cannabis 1381 00:55:50,150 --> 00:55:45,280 infused wines and we know from texts 1382 00:55:54,870 --> 00:55:52,309 that these zoroastrians for religious 1383 00:55:58,069 --> 00:55:54,880 purposes in order to enter the other 1384 00:56:00,870 --> 00:55:58,079 world would consume uh wine mixed with 1385 00:56:03,430 --> 00:56:00,880 uh banga sometimes it's used in the term 1386 00:56:06,069 --> 00:56:03,440 mong and this is a these are terms that 1387 00:56:07,910 --> 00:56:06,079 are largely translated as cannabis so 1388 00:56:10,230 --> 00:56:07,920 although some have uh 1389 00:56:11,829 --> 00:56:10,240 uh suggested tenbane and other drugs i 1390 00:56:13,589 --> 00:56:11,839 don't really i think if you really take 1391 00:56:16,549 --> 00:56:13,599 a close look at the etymology and i lay 1392 00:56:18,390 --> 00:56:16,559 all this out in my book uh it's pretty 1393 00:56:20,390 --> 00:56:18,400 clearly cannabis and cannabis infused 1394 00:56:21,829 --> 00:56:20,400 wines were very well known in the 1395 00:56:23,589 --> 00:56:21,839 ancient world these aren't the only 1396 00:56:26,390 --> 00:56:23,599 references to them 1397 00:56:28,150 --> 00:56:26,400 um and they would take enough to get 1398 00:56:29,670 --> 00:56:28,160 knocked out and they'd see their vision 1399 00:56:31,589 --> 00:56:29,680 and they'd come back and say what they 1400 00:56:33,270 --> 00:56:31,599 had seen and the only cultural 1401 00:56:35,349 --> 00:56:33,280 difference here is 1402 00:56:38,789 --> 00:56:35,359 you know the the religion itself and in 1403 00:56:40,150 --> 00:56:38,799 the islamic after world 1404 00:56:42,309 --> 00:56:40,160 there's you know you're surrounded by 1405 00:56:44,069 --> 00:56:42,319 virgins you get you know 60 virgin or 70 1406 00:56:46,710 --> 00:56:44,079 virgins 72 virgins or something like 1407 00:56:48,630 --> 00:56:46,720 that and this is what all replayed in 1408 00:56:51,510 --> 00:56:48,640 the in the myth of the assassin the 1409 00:56:53,109 --> 00:56:51,520 effects of the infused wine but likewise 1410 00:56:54,789 --> 00:56:53,119 when arden beer after brings it to the 1411 00:56:57,270 --> 00:56:54,799 zeratu religion 1412 00:56:58,789 --> 00:56:57,280 uh he goes in the to heaven and hell 1413 00:57:00,549 --> 00:56:58,799 this is where the whole concept of 1414 00:57:04,390 --> 00:57:00,559 heaven and hell come from are these 1415 00:57:07,190 --> 00:57:04,400 zoroastrian accounts right um and 1416 00:57:08,470 --> 00:57:07,200 leaked into christianity wasn't part of 1417 00:57:09,829 --> 00:57:08,480 judaism 1418 00:57:13,190 --> 00:57:09,839 um 1419 00:57:16,230 --> 00:57:13,200 and so yeah and so the the idea is that 1420 00:57:18,309 --> 00:57:16,240 the the templars had come into 1421 00:57:20,230 --> 00:57:18,319 contact with the hash machines picked up 1422 00:57:23,510 --> 00:57:20,240 this esoteric use of cannabis and 1423 00:57:25,910 --> 00:57:23,520 there's been numbers of claims in books 1424 00:57:28,069 --> 00:57:25,920 uh uh that there was an elixir of 1425 00:57:29,510 --> 00:57:28,079 jerusalem that was a combination of uh 1426 00:57:33,190 --> 00:57:29,520 cannabis 1427 00:57:35,349 --> 00:57:33,200 and uh aloe vera mixed into a palm wine 1428 00:57:37,270 --> 00:57:35,359 it was called the elixir of jerusalem 1429 00:57:39,510 --> 00:57:37,280 but i've never been able to find 1430 00:57:41,510 --> 00:57:39,520 anything past the 70s 1431 00:57:43,589 --> 00:57:41,520 indicating it but when i did look back 1432 00:57:44,710 --> 00:57:43,599 into time period documents as i 1433 00:57:47,349 --> 00:57:44,720 mentioned 1434 00:57:50,470 --> 00:57:47,359 involving the arrests it was clear that 1435 00:57:53,990 --> 00:57:50,480 cannabis was seized uh um from two 1436 00:57:57,510 --> 00:57:54,000 templar sites during the raids and um 1437 00:58:00,789 --> 00:57:57,520 also that the uh templars had under 1438 00:58:03,270 --> 00:58:00,799 contract saracens arabs growing cannabis 1439 00:58:06,150 --> 00:58:03,280 for them in spain and saracens were not 1440 00:58:07,990 --> 00:58:06,160 air people were not very uh well-versed 1441 00:58:09,750 --> 00:58:08,000 in growing fiber candidates they knew 1442 00:58:13,270 --> 00:58:09,760 about growing resin cannabis in that 1443 00:58:15,829 --> 00:58:13,280 region and spain grows excellent 1444 00:58:19,190 --> 00:58:15,839 resin cannabis as well so it seems most 1445 00:58:21,670 --> 00:58:19,200 likely that the saracens under contract 1446 00:58:24,390 --> 00:58:21,680 by the templars growing cannabis were 1447 00:58:26,789 --> 00:58:24,400 brewing resident candidates and that 1448 00:58:28,789 --> 00:58:26,799 there may be something to these elixir 1449 00:58:31,030 --> 00:58:28,799 of jerusalem claims 1450 00:58:33,589 --> 00:58:31,040 that still may emerge 1451 00:58:35,190 --> 00:58:33,599 but it's clear that on the seized items 1452 00:58:36,630 --> 00:58:35,200 list that cannabis was seized from 1453 00:58:39,270 --> 00:58:36,640 templar sites 1454 00:58:41,270 --> 00:58:39,280 and uh you know the templars 1455 00:58:43,109 --> 00:58:41,280 it's believed they may have picked up on 1456 00:58:45,990 --> 00:58:43,119 gnostic practices 1457 00:58:47,990 --> 00:58:46,000 uh uh well in the holy land and this is 1458 00:58:49,990 --> 00:58:48,000 largely largely an accusation brought 1459 00:58:52,630 --> 00:58:50,000 against them we see again these types of 1460 00:58:54,870 --> 00:58:52,640 infusions used by the gnostics and 1461 00:58:57,510 --> 00:58:54,880 carried down even into the islamic 1462 00:59:00,710 --> 00:58:57,520 period we know uh um groups like the 1463 00:59:01,910 --> 00:59:00,720 sabians uh were basically gnostic sects 1464 00:59:04,390 --> 00:59:01,920 that were still going there's still some 1465 00:59:07,030 --> 00:59:04,400 gnostic sex in iraq as well 1466 00:59:08,789 --> 00:59:07,040 up to this day so uh um 1467 00:59:10,630 --> 00:59:08,799 that that's another avenue it could have 1468 00:59:13,030 --> 00:59:10,640 come through 1469 00:59:15,270 --> 00:59:13,040 man your knowledge of the historical 1470 00:59:17,670 --> 00:59:15,280 role of cannabis and the spiritual life 1471 00:59:18,710 --> 00:59:17,680 of humanity is phenomenal chris 1472 00:59:22,950 --> 00:59:18,720 in 1473 00:59:24,870 --> 00:59:22,960 with the literary works you've provided 1474 00:59:25,829 --> 00:59:24,880 that have an overwhelming amount of 1475 00:59:27,829 --> 00:59:25,839 evidence 1476 00:59:29,430 --> 00:59:27,839 and these are topics which have been 1477 00:59:31,589 --> 00:59:29,440 hidden by the leaders of the modern 1478 00:59:33,109 --> 00:59:31,599 world and elites for pretty much all 1479 00:59:36,470 --> 00:59:33,119 time that i know of 1480 00:59:37,589 --> 00:59:36,480 lastly um with the templars mentioned 1481 00:59:40,870 --> 00:59:37,599 could 1482 00:59:42,789 --> 00:59:40,880 cannabis be the holy grail 1483 00:59:43,990 --> 00:59:42,799 well i think there's a lot to that claim 1484 00:59:46,549 --> 00:59:44,000 you know 1485 00:59:49,349 --> 00:59:46,559 there's a lot of like perjured origins 1486 00:59:52,069 --> 00:59:49,359 uh uh to the grail mythology 1487 00:59:54,789 --> 00:59:52,079 uh the the cup of uh 1488 00:59:58,470 --> 00:59:54,799 chepita i think it was called as well 1489 00:59:59,270 --> 00:59:58,480 um and uh graha is like the term for the 1490 01:00:02,390 --> 00:59:59,280 cup 1491 01:00:04,390 --> 01:00:02,400 that the uh that somo is drunk from and 1492 01:00:07,190 --> 01:00:04,400 there's all these persian connections to 1493 01:00:09,750 --> 01:00:07,200 him and cannabis infused wines uh like 1494 01:00:12,870 --> 01:00:09,760 in the argument a story he drinks from 1495 01:00:15,270 --> 01:00:12,880 golden cups the wine you know like uh 1496 01:00:17,030 --> 01:00:15,280 the cannabis-infused wines so there's a 1497 01:00:18,309 --> 01:00:17,040 lot of connection there yeah i think 1498 01:00:21,589 --> 01:00:18,319 that 1499 01:00:23,030 --> 01:00:21,599 and 1500 01:00:24,710 --> 01:00:23,040 that's not just 1501 01:00:27,510 --> 01:00:24,720 my opinion other people have written 1502 01:00:30,870 --> 01:00:27,520 about that like professor george luck 1503 01:00:33,030 --> 01:00:30,880 also suggested this as well you know um 1504 01:00:35,589 --> 01:00:33,040 and and i think that if you take a look 1505 01:00:37,430 --> 01:00:35,599 at at the evidence board it's quite 1506 01:00:39,030 --> 01:00:37,440 convincing that you know the grail is 1507 01:00:41,109 --> 01:00:39,040 described as something that's both root 1508 01:00:42,789 --> 01:00:41,119 and branch i certainly think that's a 1509 01:00:45,430 --> 01:00:42,799 much stronger case 1510 01:00:48,069 --> 01:00:45,440 than you know the badget lay theory 1511 01:00:49,670 --> 01:00:48,079 about uh bloodline of jesus 1512 01:00:51,109 --> 01:00:49,680 you know there's there's a lot more to 1513 01:00:53,349 --> 01:00:51,119 it than that when you read about the 1514 01:00:55,190 --> 01:00:53,359 role of sacred cups and you see these 1515 01:00:57,190 --> 01:00:55,200 same sort of sacred cups for cannabis 1516 01:00:58,789 --> 01:00:57,200 youth even amongst the cities and 1517 01:01:00,309 --> 01:00:58,799 there's a scythian connection to the 1518 01:01:02,470 --> 01:01:00,319 grail as well 1519 01:01:04,470 --> 01:01:02,480 uh um and uh 1520 01:01:05,910 --> 01:01:04,480 yeah this there's a really powerful case 1521 01:01:08,470 --> 01:01:05,920 for it i think 1522 01:01:12,630 --> 01:01:08,480 awesome stuff chris awesome stuff my 1523 01:01:14,950 --> 01:01:12,640 hat's off to you where can listeners 1524 01:01:16,950 --> 01:01:14,960 meet get all of your books what's the 1525 01:01:18,870 --> 01:01:16,960 best website for them to keep up with 1526 01:01:20,789 --> 01:01:18,880 your research and 1527 01:01:22,390 --> 01:01:20,799 um what do you have out there where 1528 01:01:24,109 --> 01:01:22,400 where can they where can they find i 1529 01:01:26,150 --> 01:01:24,119 keep a blog over at 1530 01:01:28,710 --> 01:01:26,160 cannabisculture.com and i post a lot of 1531 01:01:31,589 --> 01:01:28,720 historical material in my blog 1532 01:01:33,270 --> 01:01:31,599 um and uh you can find my books on 1533 01:01:35,750 --> 01:01:33,280 amazon probably best if you're 1534 01:01:37,910 --> 01:01:35,760 interested in the agent world start with 1535 01:01:39,589 --> 01:01:37,920 cannabis in the soma solution i cover a 1536 01:01:41,589 --> 01:01:39,599 lot of different ancient cultures in 1537 01:01:43,109 --> 01:01:41,599 there all this biblical material that 1538 01:01:46,470 --> 01:01:43,119 i've been talking about this slavic 1539 01:01:47,990 --> 01:01:46,480 material taoist materials all covered in 1540 01:01:51,430 --> 01:01:48,000 cannabis and soma solutions because it's 1541 01:01:54,309 --> 01:01:51,440 all unrelated to to the history of soma 1542 01:01:57,270 --> 01:01:54,319 and uh the occult stuff libra 420 is 1543 01:01:59,910 --> 01:01:57,280 your best bet it's all covered in there 1544 01:02:01,829 --> 01:01:59,920 um i've got a new book coming out the 1545 01:02:03,670 --> 01:02:01,839 lost sacrament that will be going over 1546 01:02:07,589 --> 01:02:03,680 all this biblical stuff in light of the 1547 01:02:09,990 --> 01:02:07,599 latest archaeological evidence um and 1548 01:02:12,870 --> 01:02:10,000 i've got some videos documentaries on 1549 01:02:14,390 --> 01:02:12,880 youtube there's one called canada fossum 1550 01:02:17,430 --> 01:02:14,400 the history of cannabis in the old 1551 01:02:19,190 --> 01:02:17,440 testament that goes into details 1552 01:02:21,589 --> 01:02:19,200 about this linguistic argument but the 1553 01:02:23,430 --> 01:02:21,599 video was uh put together before this 1554 01:02:25,190 --> 01:02:23,440 archaeological evidence came out 1555 01:02:27,109 --> 01:02:25,200 confirming it 1556 01:02:29,430 --> 01:02:27,119 and if you search my name in cannabis 1557 01:02:31,829 --> 01:02:29,440 and google or youtube there's lots of 1558 01:02:33,829 --> 01:02:31,839 articles and interviews and things like 1559 01:02:35,510 --> 01:02:33,839 that that will pop up if you want to 1560 01:02:37,910 --> 01:02:35,520 hear more of my lab 1561 01:02:40,549 --> 01:02:37,920 it's great stuff chris i can't thank you 1562 01:02:42,069 --> 01:02:40,559 enough for coming on the podcast i 1563 01:02:44,309 --> 01:02:42,079 always love keeping up with what you're 1564 01:02:45,829 --> 01:02:44,319 doing and uh wishing you the best my man 1565 01:02:47,029 --> 01:02:45,839 thank you so much 1566 01:02:48,630 --> 01:02:47,039 thanks so much for having me it's been 1567 01:02:49,910 --> 01:02:48,640 my pleasure 1568 01:02:53,589 --> 01:02:49,920 well there you have it ladies and 1569 01:02:56,150 --> 01:02:53,599 gentlemen the modern mage the mystic the 1570 01:02:57,910 --> 01:02:56,160 researcher of the historical role of 1571 01:03:00,309 --> 01:02:57,920 cannabis and the spiritual life of 1572 01:03:03,589 --> 01:03:00,319 humanity he's been doing this for more 1573 01:03:06,390 --> 01:03:03,599 than a quarter century chris bennett he 1574 01:03:09,670 --> 01:03:06,400 is the author of green gold the tree of 1575 01:03:12,230 --> 01:03:09,680 life marijuana in magic and religion 1576 01:03:15,109 --> 01:03:12,240 sex drugs violence in the bible and 1577 01:03:18,309 --> 01:03:15,119 author of cannabis and the soma solution 1578 01:03:21,349 --> 01:03:18,319 not to mention this amazing book libre 1579 01:03:24,630 --> 01:03:21,359 420 cannabis magical herbs and the 1580 01:03:27,270 --> 01:03:24,640 occult it seems that no matter how far 1581 01:03:29,349 --> 01:03:27,280 back we looked there are detailed 1582 01:03:31,910 --> 01:03:29,359 historical references 1583 01:03:35,349 --> 01:03:31,920 that chris has explored 1584 01:03:37,750 --> 01:03:35,359 which tie cannabis to underground and 1585 01:03:40,390 --> 01:03:37,760 occulted facts 1586 01:03:42,309 --> 01:03:40,400 in the mystery schools 1587 01:03:45,910 --> 01:03:42,319 religions 1588 01:03:48,390 --> 01:03:45,920 and history itself so definitely 1589 01:03:50,230 --> 01:03:48,400 support chris support his books pick 1590 01:03:52,390 --> 01:03:50,240 them up they are a must-have in 1591 01:03:55,670 --> 01:03:52,400 everyone's library 1592 01:03:58,549 --> 01:03:55,680 don't accept the lies and find out more 1593 01:04:01,109 --> 01:03:58,559 of which is hid behind the veil until 1594 01:04:03,510 --> 01:04:01,119 next time keep your eyes to the skies 1595 01:04:15,190 --> 01:04:03,520 feet on the ground but don't forget to 1596 01:04:24,390 --> 01:04:21,829 [Music] 1597 01:04:28,610 --> 01:04:24,400 come blast off in my time machine 1598 01:04:39,190 --> 01:04:33,990 [Music]